Trump 2, Women 0

@A-Unique-Nickname said
I'm not from the states and didn't really care who won, but it seems to me that the majority of educated people vote democrat. Not just in this election, in history. Will be happily proven wrong.

Brexit was the same, majority of educated people wanted to remain. So what does that say about giving people important influence on their country?

Imo there should ...[text shortened]... ection or referendum, fail and your vote doesn't count. Some people are just too dumb to have power.

Firstly, Do you have a degree? What is it in? If so do you consider yourself as “educated”?

Secondly, I voted for Brexit so do you consider yourself more “educated” than me?

@sh76 said
Sure; it was a stupid overreaction (though an equally dumb decision by Budweiser).

That has very little relationship to the point we're discussing.

Only because you say so.

@sh76 said
Vulgarity and coarseness are beside the point. Of course Trump is vulgar. Of course he's coarse. Of course he's borderline nuts. But you don't have to agree with the right on every issue for the right to accept you into the camp. You can be pro-choice. You can be in favor of raising taxes, of increasing entitlements, of same sex marriage. It doesn't really matter that much. The ...[text shortened]... their fingers at anyone who holds any one of half a dozen positions that many of them probably hold.

Yup sideline the argument with a deft elites in white ivory towers refrain and you can ignore the whole weight of whats been said. Very unedifyng.

@sh76 said
Vulgarity and coarseness are beside the point.

Name another election cycle where vulgarity and coarseness were pointedly part of the strategy. (Apart from Hillary.)

@spruce112358 said
Both women were far more qualified than the Donald. As for "best"... what does that even mean?

Turns out, America does not want a female President. I don't know if America ever will at this rate because what party will take the risk to try again?

say wahaaa...?

Spruce: Both women were far more qualified than the Donald.

LOLOL thanks for the mammories

@kmax87 said
Name another election cycle where vulgarity and coarseness were pointedly part of the strategy. (Apart from Hillary.)

Nobody does vulgarity and coarseness like Trump does vulgarity and coarseness. That's an entirely separate issue from which side will destroy you for maintaining one "unorthodox" position.

@kmax87 said
Yup sideline the argument with a deft elites in white ivory towers refrain and you can ignore the whole weight of whats been said. Very unedifyng.

The elites in white ivory towers refrain is a worthy response to the "misogynism must be to blame when women lose" refrain.

@sh76 said
Nobody does vulgarity and coarseness like Trump does vulgarity and coarseness. That's an entirely separate issue from which side will destroy you for maintaining one "unorthodox" position.

So cancel culture is a left-leaning liberal thing?

@divegeester said
Firstly, Do you have a degree? What is it in? If so do you consider yourself as “educated”?

Secondly, I voted for Brexit so do you consider yourself more “educated” than me?

You could have 5 PdDs and I could have left school at 14 and it wouldn't change the fact that the majority of educated people voted to remain.

@divegeester said

Secondly, I voted for Brexit so do you consider yourself more “educated” than me?

Serious question. Why did you vote for Brexit, and are you still happy that you did?
There's been a lot of post brexiteering that says Farage and Johnson made a lot of bogus claims about how much better off Brits would be. Are you better off?

@kmax87 said
In the 2 instances that Trump was successful at the polls, he competed against a female candidate.

When you compare the female's performance with the male candidate of her party that was successful before her you find that her male predecessor was more successful at the polls.

So what's the reason?

America not ready to have it's top job filled by a woman? What other reasons are out there?

Hate to tell you,,,,,it is not about race or gender, it is about class now. Get in, man.

@sh76 said
Nobody does vulgarity and coarseness like Trump does vulgarity and coarseness. That's an entirely separate issue from which side will destroy you for maintaining one "unorthodox" position.

I am just not a guy who would entwine “vulgarity or ‘cooaaaarrrsseness into a post. Weird stuff. Should George Patton not have been coarse?

@kmax87 said
Serious question. Why did you vote for Brexit, and are you still happy that you did?
There's been a lot of post brexiteering that says Farage and Johnson made a lot of bogus claims about how much better off Brits would be. Are you better off?

I'm not going to answer for Dive but the people who I know who voted to leave (which isn't many) did so because they thought the UK would have more control over their borders. Which I guess is true but it left a massive hole in the job market, which is now being filled by mostly Asian and African countries. Nothing wrong with that however try getting a non skilled worker into the country to pick fruit for 3 months...

Then there was the argument that the UK bumped a lot of money into the EU and never got anything back... Except for farmers of course, who had an unlimited supply or grants and loans from the EU and government in general. Now the EU money has disappeared they're crying poverty, while ruining the planet. Fecken farmers.

I'm sure there is and will be positives to come out of Brexit in the long-term, however giving up the freedom to live, work, travel in other EU countries and stopping people from the EU coming in for non skilled jobs is just daft.

@kmax87 said
Serious question. Why did you vote for Brexit, and are you still happy that you did?
There's been a lot of post brexiteering that says Farage and Johnson made a lot of bogus claims about how much better off Brits would be. Are you better off?

I made my decision in principle as long ago as 1992 and the signing of the Maastricht Treaty by the then Conservative Party, and then in practice in 2016 to reverse it. The principle being similar to the general one of devolution here in the UK, whereby nation states want independence from outside political power blocks. Essentially keeping democratic power as local to the electorate as possible. No I have no regrets and would vote the same way again, and for the same reasons. The problems associated with leaving the EU are either caused directly by, or compounded by, weak government planning, weak policy making and a lack of strategic fortitude.

Edit: Trump, the ADF and the general rise of right wing populism across Europe is a direct result of governments not listening to and not acting upon the democratic will of their electorate. It will eventually be the west’s undoing imo.

@A-Unique-Nickname said
You could have 5 PdDs and I could have left school at 14 and it wouldn't change the fact that the majority of educated people voted to remain.

I don’t see how having a degree in Taiwanese basket weaving bears any relation to understanding the political simplicity of wanting a devolvement of EU membership based on independence. The Scott’s, Irish and Welsh all want political independence from the UK and I don’t blame them for being uneducated. Your point is just a throwback to the hackneyed insults of 2015/16 and the referendum fallout.