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@divegeester said
What’s happening at the UK borders has nothing to do with Brexit and would be exactly the same without Brexit.

Ideological about Brexit? No. I’m ideological about sovereignty for all nation states based on the principle and best practices of Western democracy.

Seems like you did have one referendum. 🙂

"In 1975, the United Kingdom held its first ever national referendum on whether the UK should remain in the European Economic Community. ...

"On 5 June 1975, the electorate was asked to vote yes or no on the question: "Do you think the UK should stay in the European Community (Common Market)?" Every administrative county and region in the UK returned majority "Yes" votes, apart from the Shetland Islands and the Outer Hebrides. With a turnout of just under 65%, the outcome of the vote was 67.2% in favour of staying in, and the United Kingdom remained a member of the EEC.

@spruce112358 said
Seems like you did have one referendum. 🙂

"In 1975, the United Kingdom held its first ever national referendum on whether the UK should remain in the European Economic Community. ...

"On 5 June 1975, the electorate was asked to vote yes or no on the question: "Do you think the UK should stay in the European Community (Common Market)?" Every administrative county ...[text shortened]... the vote was 67.2% in favour of staying in, and the United Kingdom remained a member of the EEC.

Correct. But you realise that the EEC was not, and is nothing like, the EU.

@spruce112358 said
Seems like you did have one referendum. 🙂

"In 1975, the United Kingdom held its first ever national referendum on whether the UK should remain in the European Economic Community. ...

"On 5 June 1975, the electorate was asked to vote yes or no on the question: "Do you think the UK should stay in the European Community (Common Market)?" Every administrative county ...[text shortened]... the vote was 67.2% in favour of staying in, and the United Kingdom remained a member of the EEC.

Dirty salmon shagging Highlanders.

@spruce112358 said
I heard you wanted to 'be like Switzerland.' 😆

Does that still apply? If so, why isn't it working?

You mean the UK? Probably the lack of mountains and Germans.

@divegeester said
Correct. But you realise that the EEC was not, and is nothing like, the EU.

"A rose by any other name..." But seriously, didn't you opt out of the EU parts you didn't like e.g. Schengen and the euro? 😆

To an outsider, it looks like the EU bent over backward to let you do what you wanted, and there was never much support for leaving. For example: "The Referendum Party was formed in 1994 by Sir James Goldsmith to contest the 1997 general election on a platform of providing a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU. It fielded candidates in 547 constituencies at that election, and won 810,860 votes or 2.6% of the total votes cast. It failed to win a single parliamentary seat because its vote was spread out across the country, and lost its deposit (funded by Goldsmith) in 505 constituencies."

I mean, I get it. You changed you mind after 40 years. But why?

@spruce112358 said
"A rose by any other name..." But seriously, didn't you opt out of the EU parts you didn't like e.g. Schengen and the euro? 😆

To an outsider, it looks like the EU bent over backward to let you do what you wanted, and there was never much support for leaving. For example: "The Referendum Party was formed in 1994 by Sir James Goldsmith to contest the 1997 general elect ...[text shortened]... oldsmith) in 505 constituencies."

I mean, I get it. You changed you mind after 40 years. But why?

I haven’t changed my mind.

Oh and 😆

@A-Unique-Nickname said
You mean the UK? Probably the lack of mountains and Germans.

That'd do it. So what are you trying to be as a country?

I don't think you remember how to be a small, insular, independent nation with no far-flung colonies. When was the last time - 1400 something? 😆

@divegeester said
I haven’t changed my mind.

Oh and 😆

"You" the country. Y'all. Not "you personally." 🙄

@sh76 said
Of course it is, and I think you know that.

Not exclusively, of course, but primarily.

You should explain that to university presidents who lost their jobs because they wouldn't promise right wing members of Congress to punish students for chanting pro-Palestinian slogans.

@spruce112358 said
"You" the country. Y'all. Not "you personally." 🙄

You want me to comment on the UK “country’s” opinion of Parliament passing the Maastricht Treaty in 1992?

I can only give you my opinion on it I’m afraid.

@divegeester said
You want me to comment on the UK “country’s” opinion of Parliament passing the Maastricht Treaty in 1992?

I can only give you my opinion on it I’m afraid.

Is being in the EU a dead issue now? Is there a possibility of a return referendum?

@kmax87 said
Is being in the EU a dead issue now? Is there a possibility of a return referendum?

I don’t see the UK rejoining the EU fully nor a second referendum.

The opportunity the UK has now is to strengthen trade links with both the EU and the US.

@divegeester said
I don’t see the UK rejoining the EU fully nor a second referendum.

The opportunity the UK has now is to strengthen trade links with both the EU and the US.

Don't forget us down under as your AUKUS partner. Multi-lateral free trade agreements for the win!

@kmax87 said
Don't forget us down under as your AUKUS partner. Multi-lateral free trade agreements for the win!

Of course, and absolutely!

Meanwhile you guys have illegal immigration under control now right?

@AverageJoe1 said
I am just not a guy who would entwine “vulgarity or ‘cooaaaarrrsseness into a post. Weird stuff. Should George Patton not have been coarse?

George Patton did not claim to be everyone's president.