@metal-brain saidA bunch of stupid questions. You already said that the Jews were not entitled to any portion of Palestinian which the UN and the British passed over to them in 1948. Well you are on your own there.
I did. You are evading my questions. Israel already exists so why does it need to expand and steal more land if the prophesy has already been fulfilled? Also, define "Holy Land" if you think Israel has to expand to make room for more Jewish migrants.
The bible says Jews would return to the homeland, but does that mean every single Jew in the whole world? And if Alan D ...[text shortened]... Does the bible encourage the stealing of land which violates one of the ten commandments? Yes or no?
@rajk999 saidNo, they are legitimate questions that you are trying to evade. Define "passed over".
A bunch of stupid questions. You already said that the Jews were not entitled to any portion of Palestinian which the UN and the British passed over to them in 1948. Well you are on your own there.
The Balfour Declaration didn't say anything about a Jewish nation in Palestine.
It also didn't say to steal the land from the natives. Where did the Balfour Declaration say Jews did not have to buy the land in Palestine?
@rajk999 saidThe British passed nothing on to the Jews of Palestine and certainly not statehood, the Balfour Declaration promised them a ‘home’ in Palestine and in the next paragraph promised that the rights of Arab Palestinians would be protected.
A bunch of stupid questions. You already said that the Jews were not entitled to any portion of Palestinian which the UN and the British passed over to them in 1948. Well you are on your own there.
The US gave the Jews of Palestine a state and the British were in no fit state to argue with them
But it’s worth noting that the Palestinian Arabs were offered a viable two state solution twice before 48 and refused to even consider it.
No1 aid there are no black hats and white hats in this situation and he’s not wrong
@metal-brain saidI will leave you to fume over that. In the meantime the Jews are going to annex Gaza, and the world will just watch and do nothing. You know why? Palestinians are a base people, disliked even by fellow Arabs. They have aligned themselves to jihadists, who have pledged their lives to the destruction of western people. They live in hatred and their methods are to wilfully target civilians. So when the dust settles on this drama, in the end the Palestinians will just be a scattered people and the Quran and the Bible will both be correct and fulfilled that God gave the Holy Land to the Jews.
No, they are legitimate questions that you are trying to evade. Define "passed over".
The Balfour Declaration didn't say anything about a Jewish nation in Palestine.
It also didn't say to steal the land from the natives. Where did the Balfour Declaration say Jews did not have to buy the land in Palestine?
@kevcvs57 saidThe land of Palestine was under British rule, and by the Partition Plan, approved by the UN in 1948, both parties were allocated their portion. End of story. I don't know, dont care either, where you got all that nonsense.
The British passed nothing on to the Jews of Palestine and certainly not statehood, the Balfour Declaration promised them a ‘home’ in Palestine and in the next paragraph promised that the rights of Arab Palestinians would be protected.
The US gave the Jews of Palestine a state and the British were in no fit state to argue with them
But it’s worth noting that the Palestini ...[text shortened]... en consider it.
No1 aid there are no black hats and white hats in this situation and he’s not wrong
The Jews accepted the partition and started building a nation. The idiot Palestinians rejected the plan because they wanted all the land, and started the war.
@rajk999 saidIsraeli forces defeated the Palestinian militias and Arab armies in a vicious conflict that turned 700,000 Palestinian civilians into refugees. The UN partition promised 56 percent of British Palestine for the Jewish state; by the end of the war, Israel possessed 77 percent — everything except the West Bank and the eastern quarter of Jerusalem (controlled by Jordan), as well as the Gaza Strip (controlled by Egypt). It left Israelis with a state, but not Palestinians.
A bunch of stupid questions. You already said that the Jews were not entitled to any portion of Palestinian which the UN and the British passed over to them in 1948. Well you are on your own there.
https://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18080016/israel-zionism-war-1948
Israel violated the UN partition plan so you have no leg to stand on there either.
@rajk999 saidThen Jews must be disliked even more since creating a Jewish homeland was intended to get rid of the Jews. The Nazi came up with the idea before they lost the war. The Europeans didn't want them in Europe so the British devised a plan to get rid of them just like the Nazis wanted to. The Nazis wanted to get rid of them by sending them to Madagascar. Fascist Italy though Ethiopia would be a good place for them. Anywhere but near them.
I will leave you to fume over that. In the meantime the Jews are going to annex Gaza, and the world will just watch and do nothing. You know why? Palestinians are a base people, disliked even by fellow Arabs. They have aligned themselves to jihadists, who have pledged their lives to the destruction of western people. They live in hatred and their methods are to wilfully t ...[text shortened]... the Quran and the Bible will both be correct and fulfilled that God gave the Holy Land to the Jews.
@metal-brain saidServes them right. They refused the partition plan, and started the war, They got their Arab neighbours involved and all the surrounding Arab states got involved and they all attacked Israel, and they were certain of victory. They lost the war, and they were humiliated like a bunch of fools.
Israeli forces defeated the Palestinian militias and Arab armies in a vicious conflict that turned 700,000 Palestinian civilians into refugees. The UN partition promised 56 percent of British Palestine for the Jewish state; by the end of the war, Israel possessed 77 percent — everything except the West Bank and the eastern quarter of Jerusalem (controlled by Jordan), as w ...[text shortened]... onism-war-1948
Israel violated the UN partition plan so you have no leg to stand on there either.
Had they been wise, they would have built their nation on the 47% of the land they got in the partition plan. In a war, if you are the aggressor which they were, the defender {the Jews} can annex their land, push them back and move the borders.
They are stupid people, driven by hatred. It has been a constant cycle of hatred, stupidity, greed and attacking civilians. They are their own worst enemy.
Israel does not abide by UN guidelines, by the way.
@metal-brain saidWhere are the Nazis? They are in the dustbin of history.
Then Jews must be disliked even more since creating a Jewish homeland was intended to get rid of the Jews. The Nazi came up with the idea before they lost the war. The Europeans didn't want them in Europe so the British devised a plan to get rid of them just like the Nazis wanted to. The Nazis wanted to get rid of them by sending them to Madagascar. Fascist Italy though Ethiopia would be a good place for them. Anywhere but near them.
Where are the Jews now? They are a world power, and getting stronger.
You see, even with all the hatred of the Jews, the smarter nations know this fact... that the world is better off with Jews than with Jihadists and Islamic extremists.
@rajk999 saidIf you ever get your land stolen from you remember to be a good sport about it.
Serves them right. They refused the partition plan, and started the war, They got their Arab neighbours involved and all the surrounding Arab states got involved and they all attacked Israel, and they were certain of victory. They lost the war, and they were humiliated like a bunch of fools.
Had they been wise, they would have built their nation on the 47% of the land ...[text shortened]... g civilians. They are their own worst enemy.
Israel does not abide by UN guidelines, by the way.
Don't be a fool. Just bend over and take it. Don't be driven by hatred, stupidity, greed.
Greed huh? It must be greedy to want your land back after it is stolen from you.
Victims of theft are greedy for wanting justice? Explain that to me.
@rajk999 saidZionism was a Nazi idea. The Europeans got rid of them and now it is the Palestinians problem. The only reason Israel is getting stronger is because of welfare from the USA. Israel is a welfare nation.
Where are the Nazis? They are in the dustbin of history.
Where are the Jews now? They are a world power, and getting stronger.
You see, even with all the hatred of the Jews, the smarter nations know this fact... that the world is better off with Jews than with Jihadists and Islamic extremists.
Israel should be sending us money so we can have universal healthcare like they do. We are subsidizing their social programs by giving them weapons so they can spend more of their own money on socialism. Israel is a parasite nation.
@metal-brain saidHatred - read the Hamas charter
If you ever get your land stolen from you remember to be a good sport about it.
Don't be a fool. Just bend over and take it. Don't be driven by hatred, stupidity, greed.
Greed huh? It must be greedy to want your land back after it is stolen from you.
Victims of theft are greedy for wanting justice? Explain that to me.
Greed - they want all the land of Palestine and they must be no Jewish state there
Stupidity - they keep going on this cycle - attack civilian Jews, face reprisals and war, lose more land. Repeat ... repeat again.
Stupidity is what is making them believe then can ever win a war against the Jews. Stupidity is what stopped them from accepting the partiton plan of 1948.
@metal-brain saidWhatever. 50% of American billionaires are Jews.
Zionism was a Nazi idea. The Europeans got rid of them and now it is the Palestinians problem. The only reason Israel is getting stronger is because of welfare from the USA. Israel is a welfare nation.
Israel should be sending us money so we can have universal healthcare like they do. We are subsidizing their social programs by giving them weapons so they can spend more of their own money on socialism. Israel is a parasite nation.
@rajk999 said50% of American billionaires are greedy parasites. How do you think they got that rich? Nobody needs to be a billionaire. What are they saving for?
Whatever. 50% of American billionaires are Jews.
When you want more money than you can possibly spend it is not about only money anymore. It is about a perverse lust for power that is never satisfied.
@rajk999 said"Greed - they want all the land of Palestine and they must be no Jewish state there"
Hatred - read the Hamas charter
Greed - they want all the land of Palestine and they must be no Jewish state there
Stupidity - they keep going on this cycle - attack civilian Jews, face reprisals and war, lose more land. Repeat ... repeat again.
Stupidity is what is making them believe then can ever win a war against the Jews. Stupidity is what stopped them from accepting the partiton plan of 1948.
No, that is a lie. They want back the land the Jewish state stole from them. If a state was stealing your land you would not accept the state either. Common sense to the unbiased. The reason Israel stole the land and kicked them out was to keep Jewish people the majority of people in Israel. If the Zionists let them stay it would no longer be a Jewish state, would it? Palestinians would have been the majority and ruled Israel. That is why Israel expelled them to Gaza to live in a concentration camp.