Originally posted by Feivel
Are you really that short sighted or are you just feigning ignorance? The number or name or mark will obviously serve as a visual cue that the holder (markee) can buy or sell, why else do you think I brought up Cain who's mark was visual.
Yet again. You've failed to address my issues. What prevents two people without the mark from buying or trading , unless the method of buying or trading somehow actually requires the number on the person to transmit funds ?
Do you truely believe that the majority of people would not stand up against an authority that makes it THAT OBVIOUS that they are the beast in Biblical terms ? Feivel, Satan does NOT want you to believe in God. He does NOT want to you to know there IS a God. Think like the most cunning deceptive entity in this world, the 'prince of lies'. If you were Satan, what is the best way to get people away from God ?
1. Make it OBVIOUS that there is a God, by printing a 666 on your head or arm, or
2. Disqualify people from God by making them wear your number, without them even knowing they are ?
Why didn't I answer your question?
1 - It was nothing more than a leading question that deserved no answer whatsoever
I don't understand your motive in these religious discussions. You seem to beleive there is a God, but clearly no Christian God. My next assumption would be that you are infact Jewish ? Anywhere close ?
cheers
What prevents two people without the mark from buying or trading , unless the method of buying or trading somehow actually requires the number on the person to transmit funds ?
Ok...Let's use a totally silly but true example. We can discuss the recent activity that has been disucces on these forums. Bobby Fischer. The US had trade embargos in place with Yugoslavia that much to your chagrin did stop business with Yugoslavia. You say Fischer went there anyway? Yes he did but he is NOT in the country anymore and he is a "marked" man if he ever were to return here. I guess the possibility of a trade sanction of some sort has never entered your mind.
Do you truely believe that the majority of people would not stand up against an authority that makes it THAT OBVIOUS that they are the beast in Biblical terms ?
If you believe the bible then you must also believe that statement to be true.
Feivel, Satan does NOT want you to believe in God. He does NOT want to you to know there IS a God. Think like the most cunning deceptive entity in this world, the 'prince of lies'. If you were Satan, what is the best way to get people away from God
Want the honest truth? God wants your glory and worship and satan doesn't want you to give that to god. What's the best way to prevent it? Not by luring you into ungodly things but by the way he has apparently done. Forming a church that believes they are worshiping and glorifying god when in reality they are doing nothing but making god puke.
Feivel
I don't understand your motive in these religious discussions.
My motive is to discuss NOT as you previously thought and accused me of only wanting to start arguments.
You seem to beleive there is a God, but clearly no Christian God.
Correct but let's take that one step further...no biblical god.
My next assumption would be that you are infact Jewish ?
What does that matter? If you want to think that I am a religious Jew by all means go ahead but you know what assuming does.
Feivel
Originally posted by Feivel
Ok...Let's use a totally silly but true example. We can discuss the recent activity that has been disucces on these forums. Bobby Fischer. The US had trade embargos in place with Yugoslavia that much to your chagrin did stop business with Yugoslavia. You say Fischer went there anyway? Yes he did but he is NOT in the country anymore and he is a "marked" man if he ever were to return here. I guess the possibility of a trade sanction of some sort has never entered your mind. [/b]
I don't quite even understand what you're talking about above. I assume you're simply referring to trade sanctions. As the Mark of the Beast will be at a personal (0-0 trading level) it needs to be enforced. How do you suggest it will be enforced ? What will prevent 1 Christian from exchanging money with another Christian, or even a person with the mark of the beast ?
Do you truely believe that the majority of people would not stand up against an authority that makes it THAT OBVIOUS that they are the beast in Biblical terms ?
If you believe the bible then you must also believe that statement to be true.
Why ? I don't believe every biblical statement to be litteral. Infact of all the books of the Bible revelation is the most figurative of them all. A prophecy intendedto be understood only by those close to God. Afterall , that is precisely what prophecies were for, people of God. Do you read the entire Revelation as litteral ?
Want the honest truth? God wants your glory and worship and satan doesn't want you to give that to god. What's the best way to prevent it? Not by luring you into ungodly things but by the way he has apparently done. Forming a church that believes they are worshiping and glorifying god when in reality they are doing nothing but making god puke.
Catholic Church I assume. Does that make you a Jehova's Witness ?
My motive is to discuss NOT as you previously thought and accused me of only wanting to start arguments.
Discussion involved 2 way communication, talking AND listening. You seem to have your mind made up already, feel free to prove me wrong.
Correct but let's take that one step further...no biblical god.
My next assumption would be that you are infact Jewish ?
I would merely like to know where you are coming from. What your beliefs are. Perhaps you assume that it is my intention of attacking your faith once I know what you are. Either way, I feel in an open discussion, you should share you personal views too.
What does that matter? If you want to think that I am a religious Jew by all means go ahead but you know what assuming does.
A question. Please, by all means, fill me in on your beliefs.
pc
Originally posted by pcaspianI don't quite even understand what you're talking about above.
Originally posted by Feivel
Ok...Let's use a totally silly but true example. We can discuss the recent activity that has been disucces on these forums. Bobby Fischer. The US had trade embargos in place with Yugoslavia that much ...[text shortened]... question. Please, by all means, fill me in on your beliefs.
pc
Apparently your mind is made up and you refuse to even entertain any other possibility.
As the Mark of the Beast will be at a personal (0-0 trading level) it needs to be enforced. How do you suggest it will be enforced ?
I don't nor is it my job to suggest anything.
What will prevent 1 Christian from exchanging money with another Christian, or even a person with the mark of the beast ?
Don't know what nor does it matter to me what. If you believe the bible you know that it will be prevented.
I don't believe every biblical statement to be litteral.
It is apparent that you and other christians interpret the bible to justify your beliefs.
Infact of all the books of the Bible revelation is the most figurative of them all
Except when it comes to your pet barcode.
A prophecy intendedto be understood only by those close to God.
Oh...so now your claiming christian superiority?
Catholic Church I assume.
I thought we already discussed what assumptions are.
Does that make you a Jehova's Witness ?
Does that make you someone they should have burnt at the stake? What do my beliefs or non-beliefs have to do with this. As a matter of fact, I know I made this exact statement to you before so go search the forums for it.
Discussion involved 2 way communication, talking AND listening. You seem to have your mind made up already, feel free to prove me wrong.
Prove you wrong that my mind is made up about the number of the beast not being a barcode? Why would i do that? The number is 666 and that is not a barcode, credit card or bank card except in a fairy tale.
I would merely like to know where you are coming from
Bullcrap...you believe the only way to "debate" is if you know your opponent. Debate the facts not your opponent.
Either way, I feel in an open discussion, you should share you personal views too.
Well I don't share your feelings and you can't convince me to either. Stick to the topic or I guarantee you will ruin this thread with offtopic stupidity.
Feivel
Originally posted by Feivel
[b]I don't quite even understand what you're talking about above.
Apparently your mind is made up and you refuse to even entertain any other possibility.
As the Mark of the Beast will be at a personal (0-0 trading level) it needs to be enforced. How do you suggest it will be enforced ?
I don't nor is it my job to suggest anything.
What will prevent 1 Christian from exchanging money with another Christian, or even a person with the mark of the beast ?
Don't know what nor does it matter to me what. If you believe the bible you know that it will be prevented.
I don't believe every biblical statement to be litteral.
It is apparent that you and other christians interpret the bible to justify your beliefs.
Infact of all the books of the Bible revelation is the most figurative of them all
Except when it comes to your pet barcode.
A prophecy intendedto be understood only by those close to God.
Oh...so now your claiming christian superiority?
Catholic Church I assume.
I thought we already discussed what assumptions are.
Does that make you a Jehova's Witness ?
Does that make you someone they should have burnt at the stake? What do my beliefs or non-beliefs have to do with this. As a matter of fact, I know I made this exact statement to you before so go search the forums for it.
Discussion involved 2 way communication, talking AND listening. You seem to have your mind made up already, feel free to prove me wrong.
Prove you wrong that my mind is made up about the number of the beast not being a barcode? Why would i do that? The number is 666 and that is not a barcode, credit card or bank card except in a fairy tale.
I would merely like to know where you are coming from
Bullcrap...you believe the only way to "debate" is if you know your opponent. Debate the facts not your opponent.
Either way, I feel in an open discussion, you should share you personal views too.
Well I don't share your feelings and you can't convince me to either. Stick to the topic or I guarantee you will ruin this thread with offtopic stupidity.
Feivel
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Not one of your better posts Feivel.
stay well.
Originally posted by player42The true anti-christ will come out of the Eastern Hemesphere.
..and now I can prove it!
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But the Bible talks about anti-christs all ready in the world in:
1 John 2:18-27
Warning Against Antichrists
18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son.
23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.
25And this is what he promised us--even eternal life.
26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.
27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.
If man is five, if man is five, if man is five,
then the devil is six, yeah the devil is six, the devil is six, the devil is six
and if the devil is six then god is seven, god is seven, god is seven
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN
Originally posted by Edwardipovowwwww ... another Pixies fan ... 😵
If man is five, if man is five, if man is five,
then the devil is six, yeah the devil is six, the devil is six, the devil is six
and if the devil is six then god is seven, god is seven, god is seven
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN
THIS MONKEY'S GONE TO HEAVEN