Death at the bottom of the ocean

@torunn said
Why on earth undertake such an incredibly stupid thing and also bring a child along?

Stupidity and hubris are a dangerous cocktail.

@divegeester said
I’d already forgotten about it.

Why keep it in your heart and mind?

It will stay there because there was a child involved.

@divegeester said
I’d already forgotten about it.

Why keep it in your heart and mind?

That is because you have very little if any empathy for people gooster.

-VR

@torunn said
It will stay there because there was a child involved.

The young man in question was an adult.

@divegeester said
The young man in question was an adult.

Yes, 19 years old, not a child, it still upsets me.

@torunn said
Yes, 19 years old, not a child, it still upsets me.

His brain wouldn't be fully developed at 19, so was he aware of the decision he was making, and what possibly could happen which wasn't hidden? Also take into account the guy that was fired for saying the submersible may not be safe. In fact same had been said by many experts in that field.

-VR

@very-rusty said
His brain wouldn't be fully developed at 19, so was he aware of the decision he was making, and what possibly could happen which wasn't hidden? Also take into account the guy that was fired for saying the submersible may not be safe. In fact same had been said by many experts in that field.

-VR

I think he was far too young even to be considered for such an unrealistic experiment.

@torunn said
I think he was far too young even to be considered for such an unrealistic experiment.

He was an adult and it wasn’t an experiment.

But I agree he shouldn’t have gone and was probably pressurised.

(No pun intended)

@divegeester said
He was an adult and it wasn’t an experiment.

OceanGate was a company in the tourism sector.

@fmf said
OceanGate was a company in the tourism sector.

Still an experiment in my opinion and too much of a responsibility for anybody.

@torunn said
Still an experiment in my opinion and too much of a responsibility for anybody.

How was it "an experiment"?

Was the ill-fated voyage of The Titanic also an experiment?

@fmf said
How was it "an experiment"?

Was the ill-fated voyage of The Titanic also an experiment?

In a way I think it was. The construction had new elements, and the fact that it was considered unsinkable and thus had insufficient lifeboats is, in my opinion, an experiment.

@torunn said
In a way I think it was. The construction had new elements, and the fact that it was considered unsinkable and thus had insufficient lifeboats is, in my opinion, an experiment.

That is an interesting take on it. One could say, though, that both voyages were simply surrounded by hype and hubris.

@fmf said
That is an interesting take on it. One could say, though, that both voyages were simply surrounded by hype and hubris.

Lack of responsibility.

If these two vessels had been manned only by people who had designed them and were willing to put their own lives at stake, I wouldn't mind, but encouraging passengers who knew nothing about the risks to join them, I think is awfully irresponsible.

@divegeester said
He was an adult and it wasn’t an experiment.

But I agree he shouldn’t have gone and was probably pressurised.

(No pun intended)

Of course it was an experiment.

Experts had already said they didn't believe the submersible would hold together and more testing should have been done.

I think they believed they were going to make a lot of money from this submersible and still might after much more testing is done to see why it failed and why so many of the experts were correct in saying more testing should be done.

I wonder if the guy they fired will go after the company for money now?

-VR