20 Apr 07
Originally posted by mlpriorssshhhhhhh... ..not so loud, Millie. That's 'sposed to be a secret. 😵
...All the previous judgements are correct: Americans are all fat and lazy and we sit around with our thumbs up our arses laughing at the rest of the world and all their problems while we order another Martini and plot another invasion, preferably a 3rd world country who is defenseless and has lots of natural resources....
20 Apr 07
Originally posted by wormwoodYou pretty much expressed my thoughts exactly there. Well put.
to me it looks like the consensus of the thread seems to be that americans are no fatter than people in other western countries, are 'can-doers' and polite to the point of insanity. so cut the victim crap.
but it doesn't change the facts that your country keeps invading 3rd world countries almost annually for 'national interests', veto all the wrong UN r ...[text shortened]... rts, all of which is biting back at you as the title of the most hated nation in the world.
21 Apr 07
i think americans have a sense of nation which is the envy of every other country in the world. whether you follow individual policies or not at least they have a vision of themselves.
i can only think of the old quote of america as the world policeman. easy to criticise but when you need a cop who do you call ?
...ten points to anyone who posts 'ghostbusters'
21 Apr 07
Originally posted by scoop122Ghostbusters - that should win me my points.
i think americans have a sense of nation which is the envy of every other country in the world. whether you follow individual policies or not at least they have a vision of themselves.
i can only think of the old quote of america as the world policeman. easy to criticise but when you need a cop who do you call ?
...ten points to anyone who posts 'ghostbusters'
"have a sense of nation which is the envy of every country in the world" - I would have to disagree there - the American nationalism is no more rabid than an English football fan's. When you live in America, there is a sense of place, but it gets smaller and smaller - The country, the state, the city, the neighborhood - how many other countries in the world have people claiming pride in "the southside" or the "eastside" or just some random street the way you do in America? American pride breaks down in the face of difference of any sort within their own borders. I mean no insult by this, but again, having lived there for more than a decade, I've seen it happen that neighbour hates neighbour while both claim pride in America.
Irish people have a hyper-developed sense of nation, possibly because it is less than a hundred years since the beginning of the fight for independence, and they have the same issues - in Dublin it's Northside (generally considered less affluent and more dangerous) versus the southside (generally wealthy etc.) Again, this is subdivided into areas and people are almost psychotically attached to their neighborhood/city/team/area in various situations.
I think that this is probably the same all over. Everyone loves or has ties to something in the place that they live, or the place that they are from, or even places they stayed for a while in between (I would still stand up for Arizona and its crazy-assed wild-west ways over, say, Oklahoma. I lived in Arizona for years, but only visited Oklahoma.)
People have a crazy attachment to the patches of dirt they've camped on, the places they've huddled together in against any adversity - and that goes for every place on Earth. The reason people think that Americans have a greater sense of nation, of being "one nation, under god" is only to do with the propaganda that is thrown about.
- I've probably lost my Ghostbusters points because I was going on for so long.
22 Apr 07
Originally posted by wormwood3/5 people are obese in some states...😞
to me it looks like the consensus of the thread seems to be that americans are no fatter than people in other western countries, are 'can-doers' and polite to the point of insanity. so cut the victim crap.
but it doesn't change the facts that your country keeps invading 3rd world countries almost annually for 'national interests', veto all the wrong UN r ...[text shortened]... rts, all of which is biting back at you as the title of the most hated nation in the world.