14 Feb 16
Originally posted by GHOST HUNTERThis is just another deflection. Maybe it was in here. Wherever it was I've reposted in this forum and you've seen it. Are you going to address the issue or continue to make yourself look evasive and dishonest?
i have never posted in the spirtuality forum, you liar.
evidence?
Originally posted by FMFNo if the families involved were instructed to go to the authorities as seems to have been the case because there was no mandatory reporting then that is not the same as deliberately concealing information, so we shall ask you again, in what sense are you saying there was a cover up? We shall also ask you in what way were they ' forced' to give up information as you have also stated?
Allegations about serious criminal actions made by at least 1,800 children were all kept secret from the authorities. So I mean "cover ups" in that sense.
14 Feb 16
Originally posted by FMFthats in the past
Allegations about serious criminal actions made by at least 1,800 children were all kept secret from the authorities. So I mean "cover ups" in that sense.
more worrying issue is why would you pretend to be a girl on here?
thats perverse..
lunch break.
you and your pathetic clones can run around rattled for a while.
hope you had a nice valentines day,
14 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWe are talking about serious allegation of failure to report over a thousand allaegations of child sex abuse by the leadership of the Jehovah's Witness leadership but you would prefer to talk about some game FMF may have been playing here at RHP...is that it? Is that how your organisation teaches go to handle this? They leave you alone and exposed, not even permitting you to read the official report.
was your friend masquerading under the guise of a girl in order to dupe other users?
14 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow do you know that families were instructed to go to the authorities?
No if the families involved were instructed to go to the authorities as seems to have been the case because there was no mandatory reporting then that is not the same as deliberately concealing information, so we shall ask you again, in what sense are you saying there was a cover up?
Originally posted by divegeesterNo we are talking about your friend masquerading as a women on the internet in order to dupe other users, can you confirm or deny the allegations. Your attempts to use other issues are merely an attempt at deflection.
We are talking about serious allegation of failure to report over a thousand allaegations of child sex abuse by the leadership of the Jehovah's Witness leadership but you would prefer to talk about some game FMF may have been playing here at RHP...is that it? Is that how your organisation teaches go to handle this? They leave you alone and exposed, not even permitting you to read the official report.
14 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're completely wrong. One victim testified under oath that when she told an elder within her congregation that she was going to report her abuser to the authorities she was threatened with being disfellowshipped.
This seems to have been the practice when no mandatory reporting was mandated.
Originally posted by Proper KnobThats simply nonsense you cannot be disfellowshipped for reporting anything to anyone, the only way you can be disfellowshiped is by going through a judicial committee of at least three elders who examine the case and decide whether you are repentant or not. Any witness knows and understands that. To state that a single elder has the power to disfellowship anyone is simply a nonsense.
You're completely wrong. One victim testified under oath that when she told an elder within her congregation that she was going to report her abuser to the authorities she was threatened with being disfellowshipped.
The elders testified to the royal commission and I quote, 'when not required by law to report abuse allegations to authorities, the church left the decision to report to authorities with the victim and his or her family'
Can you explain how your witness had absolutely no idea of the internal workings of Jehovahs witnesses and was harbouring the delusion that a single elder could disfellowship her? do you find such an allegation to be based on fact?
14 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd the organization itself just carried on with alleged pedophiles who had allegedly committed serious crimes in its ranks?
The elders testified to the royal commission and I quote, 'when not required by law to report abuse allegations to authorities, the church left the decision to report to authorities with the victim and his or her family'
14 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieShe testified under oath that when she told an elder within her congregation she was going to report her sexual abuse to the civil authorities she was threatened with being disfellowshipped.
Thats simply nonsense you cannot be disfellowshipped for reporting anything to anyone, the only way you can be disfellowshiped is by going through a judicial committee of at least three elders who examine the case and decide whether you are repentant or not. any witness knows and understands that. To state that a single elder has the power to disfe ...[text shortened]... that a single elder could disfellowship her? do you find such an allegation to be based on fact?
14 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI have no idea, why on earth are you asking me about something FMF may or may not have done you silly man.
No we are talking about your friend masquerading as a women on the internet in order to dupe other users, can you confirm or deny the allegations. Your attempts to use other issues are merely an attempt at deflection.