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Originally posted by 7ate9
i'm still at a loss at how you thought black would win after a knight swap and then Bg4. f3 would be played by white?

i originally liked the trading of the knights, but after reading mephisto's choice of playing Qc3 it also looks attractive...

it seems to me black would be forced to take knight f3 to be taken by g2. after this blacks knight E6 is then fo ...[text shortened]... ing Qc3 now? even if this is a problem i think white may be able to get two pieces for 1 rook.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
i'm going a bit over the top here with my lines, but i don't care 🙂

Qc3 .. Ng*f3
D5*E6 .. (Ng*e1)
(E6*F7(C)) .. (king move)
(K*e1)

😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀:
The king move is presumably Kf8

And now Be6 and Black is up the exchange.

Bf6 may also be very good for black

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Originally posted by 7ate9
this is the one i was meaning?
I don't think I meant Bg4+ immediately.

I wasd sort of thinking out loud. You are correct Bg4+ isn't a good move at that moment, depending where the Q moves.

I think waht I'm looking at there is that the King is trapped, if we can get a check.

If we get the Knight exchange followed by Qc3. The move for Black is c5.

If white plays Qc3 next, I want to look at c5 again as a possible alternative for Nxf3.

this is harder than a regular game because I can't put it on the analysis board and move the pieces around. I also can't look at the board while I'm typing my post, so I'm playing in my head from memory.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
i'm going a bit over the top here with my lines, but i don't care 🙂

Qc3 .. Ng*f3
D5*E6 .. (Ng*e1)
(E6*F7(C)) .. (king move)
(K*e1)

😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀:
This line loses for white. After Qc3 Nxf3 gxf3, gxf3 looks like a strong continuation for white.

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Originally posted by Red Night
I don't think I meant Bg4+ immediately.

I wasd sort of thinking out loud. You are correct Bg4+ isn't a good move at that moment, depending where the Q moves.

I think waht I'm looking at there is that the King is trapped, if we can get a check.

If we get the Knight exchange followed by Qc3. The move for Black is c5.

If white plays Qc3 next, I ...[text shortened]... can't look at the board while I'm typing my post, so I'm playing in my head from memory.
Qc3 c5? then dxe6 must be winning for white. I think black will play Nxf3.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Qc3 c5? then dxe6 must be winning for white. I think black will play Nxf3.
Good point. Right now I'm predicting Qc3.

Let's see where we are after that.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
i bet you think there must be something special about the game for it to be selected, and hence black pulls some amazing trick out of the bag to get up and win.

white, white, white!
I definately spent a lot of time looking for fireworks. So far, no fireworks.

I'm interested to get to the end and see who the players are. In some ways that is more intriguing than the game.

How about you?

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1. c4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Qb3 Nc6
6. cxd5 Nxd5 7. Bc4 Qe7+ 8. Kd1 Nf4 9. Re1 Ne6 10. d4 Qd6
11. d5 Be7 12. Bd2 Scd4 13. Nxd4

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13...Nxd4 followed quickly by O-O

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