01 Jun 06
14. ... Qf6 is a surprise. I don't like it.
15.Qg3 doesn't achieve anything now. Black castles and has no problems anymore.
15.Rxe7 looks inviting and would be my choice. Black has to choose between
- 16. ... Kd7 17.Bc3 c5 (Nf5? then 18.Bb4 is very promising) dxc+ e.p. and white is clearly in the lead
- or 16. ... Kd6 17.Bb4 c5 (Kd7 then 18.Bc3 and back to the previous line) 18.dxc+ e.p. and white is better
15.Re4 is a good alternative (Nf5 then 16.QxQ gxQ 17.Bb4 with advantage for white)
01 Jun 06
Originally posted by Mephisto2Re4 looks interesting. Attacks the Knight and defends g4
14. ... Qf6 is a surprise. I don't like it.
15.Qg3 doesn't achieve anything now. Black castles and has no problems anymore.
15.Rxe7 looks inviting and would be my choice. Black has to choose between
- 16. ... Kd7 17.Bc3 c5 (Nf5? then 18.Bb4 is very promising) dxc+ e.p. and white is clearly in the lead
- or 16. ... Kd6 17.Bb4 c5 (Kd7 then 18.Bc3 a ...[text shortened]... s better
15.Re4 is a good alternative (Nf5 then 16.QxQ gxQ 17.Bb4 with advantage for white)
OK, maybe you're right. Maybe Qf6 doesn't look that strong.
01 Jun 06
Originally posted by zebanoSee above. I only forgot a part of the line : 15. ... Kxe7 16.Qe3+.
Why?. CLearly if Qxg7, Qxd4
but what if Kxe7, Qb4+? Kd8.
Here is the corrected version:
15.Rxe7 Kxe7 16.Qe3+ and now:
- 16. ... Kd7 17.Bc3 c5 (Nf5? then 18.Bb4 is very promising) dxc+ e.p. and white is clearly in the lead
- or 16. ... Kd6 17.Bb4 c5 (Kd7 then 18.Bc3 and back to the previous line) 18.dxc+ e.p. and white is better
01 Jun 06
Originally posted by Mephisto2(Nf5? then 18.Bb4 is very promising)
See above. I only forgot a part of the line : 15. ... Kxe7 16.Qe3+.
Here is the corrected version:
15.Rxe7 Kxe7 16.Qe3+ and now:
- 16. ... Kd7 17.Bc3 c5 (Nf5? then 18.Bb4 is very promising) dxc+ e.p. and white is clearly in the lead
- or 16. ... Kd6 17.Bb4 c5 (Kd7 then 18.Bc3 and back to the previous line) 18.dxc+ e.p. and white is better
Promising for Black!!
...Nf5
Bb4?? NxQ(e3)+
Sorry Mephisto, you did that to me earlier.
Actually Nf5 looks like the only move if we get to this position.
Re4 looks best.
Based on the comments from Fabian, I think we'll see Rxe7+. Time for the fireworks.
01 Jun 06
Originally posted by Red NightThat was a typo.
(Nf5? then 18.Bb4 is very promising)
Promising for Black!!
...Nf5
Bb4?? NxQ(e3)+
Sorry Mephisto, you did that to me earlier.
Actually Nf5 looks like the only move if we get to this position.
Re4 looks best.
Based on the comments from Fabian, I think we'll see Rxe7+. Time for the fireworks.
16.... Kd7 17.Bc3 Nf5? 18.Bb5+ (not Bb4) looks very promising. Probably winning. Looks like 18. ... c5 would be the better move, no?
01 Jun 06
Originally posted by Mephisto2I figured it was a typo. c5 is better, but after dxc+, black is still in a world of hurt, no?
That was a typo.
16.... Kd7 17.Bc3 Nf5? 18.Bb5+ (not Bb4) looks very promising. Probably winning. Looks like 18. ... c5 would be the better move, no?
The more I look at the position, the more I agree with you that Qf6??? was a major mistake.
Rxe7+ is devastating.
If White plays Rxe7 it will be over soon and we can finally learn the participants.
I'm thinking it's two early chess computers without an opening book or with the opening book turned off.
02 Jun 06
Originally posted by Mephisto2Qxe7 is blacks only chance to survive.
We discussed this. 15. ... Kxe7 has to be the next move.
If instead 15. ... Qxe7 then 16.Qxd4 0-0 17.Bd3 (to prevent Bf5 and have a safer king) and 18.Nc3 may follow, giving white two pieces for the rook, and a still very annoying (for black) d-pawn. Has to win.
I think he'll play Kxe7 followed by Qe3+, Kd7, Bc3 and black is in even more trouble.