@Duchess64
Besides, it would near impossible for scientists to come up with the exact penetrating tip of C19 even with the help of the fastest supercomputers on Earth all working together because there are a near infinite number of ways those molecules can be made and to find the one needle in a haystack of needles just like it except for one atom placed just so, not THIS century.
12 May 20
@wildgrass saidWhich article? I post links often. Is it this one?
The article you posted doesn't seem to address any of those issues. Did you read it? Why did you post it?
I wrote in my comment that, due to the nature of the irresponsible assertion, it is impossible to disprove.
https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/covid-19-may-be-man-made-claims-taiwan-scholar/
Which issues are you talking about? I cannot read your mind.
12 May 20
The post that was quoted here has been removedFang Chi-tai claims SARS2 is man made. That contradicts the USA's claim it is not. There is no evidence it came from the lab in Wuhan. An American worked in that Wuhan lab and claims that was not the case.
It probably started here in the USA. The corporate news media is still ignoring Fort Detrick and how the CDC shut it down for not following safety protocols. That is unacceptable propaganda by omission.
12 May 20
@sonhouse saidYou are full of crap!
@Duchess64
Besides, it would near impossible for scientists to come up with the exact penetrating tip of C19 even with the help of the fastest supercomputers on Earth all working together because there are a near infinite number of ways those molecules can be made and to find the one needle in a haystack of needles just like it except for one atom placed just so, not THIS century.
Tell me, do any of the people who tell you such BS have any experience genetically engineering viruses? Did they ever work in a bioweapons lab like Fort Detrick to know how they design potential bioweaponized viruses and experimental versions to see the results of their tweeks?
Also, who is funding these people?
12 May 20
@wolfe63 saidViruses mutate naturally, but not in the kind of leaps SARS made in such a short period of time. The science is being perverted by BS that makes no sense. The retarded ultra conformist morons have been duped into believing viruses can evolve faster than they really can naturally. The Russians are telling the truth and it is my government that is lying.
Viruses mutate naturally. Political agendas cannot displace the science.
Jumping to conspiratorial conclusions can also be lay-speak for "fear of the unknown".
The ignorant should not be leading the blind.
If viruses can mutate to produce that many enzymes as quickly a they claim why no examples? They don't have any examples. They are full of crap liars.
13 May 20
The post that was quoted here has been removedPoint taken. That is why I am stressing there is no evidence it was the Wuhan lab that is the source. Our government knows that in time SARS2 will be revealed as genetically engineered, that is why they are saying it came from a China lab now. That way when it is admitted my government made another unfortunate mistake and it really is man made they can run with the blame China propaganda. It isn't like people generally have good critical thinking skills. They just repeat crap like apes throwing crap. Once it becomes popular people repeat propaganda like throwing crap becomes popular to primitive primates. Everybody is doing it, must be cool to be that way.
13 May 20
@metal-brain saidhow was it 'revealed' as genetically engineered to you personally?
Our government knows that in time SARS2 will be revealed as genetically engineered
How do you 'know' your government rationally 'knows' it was genetically engineered?
Where is the proof that it was genetically engineered?
13 May 20
@humy saidWhere is your example of a mutation that happens that fast? Did evolution take steroids?
how was it 'revealed' as genetically engineered to you personally?
How do you 'know' your government rationally 'knows' it was genetically engineered?
Where is the proof that it was genetically engineered?
@metal-brain saidDo you deny that mutations of more than one DNA base pair can happen? Yes or no? You imply no but are too cowardly to comit to it explicitly which implies you know you could be wrong but are no man enough to admit you can be wrong.
Where is your example of a mutation that happens that fast? Did evolution take steroids?
If no, then you are just trolling because I don't need to give examples as what is the point of giving examples of what you already agree is true?
If yes, then you deny known science of mutations and, again, I don't need to give examples but rather merely just point out that it is established science facts and thus it is up to you to prove that those established science facts are wrong, not up to me to prove that those established science facts are correct.
But here are some yet more examples of such mutations anyway;
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13818704-700/
"...
they identified the genetic mutation that causes Huntington’s disease. The researchers found a stretch
of DNA where the nucleotide triplet C-A-G repeats like a sort of genetic
stutter. Those people without the disease appear to have between 11 and
34 copies of the triplet. Those with the disease have anywhere between 42
and 86 triplet repeats, according to the preliminary research.
It was in 1872 that New York physician George Huntington first described
the disease that bears his name. Though found throughout the world, it is
most common in Caucasian populations. In the US, the prevalence of the disease
is about 10 cases per 100 000 people – about 30 000 people in all.
..."
So that is thousands of examples.
Well? Now I have given you examples that such mutations exist, do you deny that they exist? Yes or no?
If Yes, explain to us how those are NOT such examples of mutation of more than one DNA base-pair.
If no, what is your point?
Obviously, if DNA in a human cell can have such a mutation then DNA of anything, including viruses, can also can have such a mutation. Why wouldn't that be true? What would be stopping the natural forces that cause human cell DNA from having such mutations from also causing DNA in viruses from having such mutations?
13 May 20
@metal-brain saidCoutard et al. in Antiviral Research. You have posted it at least three times on this thread, which means you must think it's important. I was wondering if you read it and why you think it's important or relevant to the origins of SARS?
Which article? I post links often. Is it this one?
https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/covid-19-may-be-man-made-claims-taiwan-scholar/
Which issues are you talking about? I cannot read your mind.
14 May 20
@humy saidAre you referring to a hybrid virus?
Do you deny that mutations of more than one DNA base pair can happen? Yes or no? You imply no but are too cowardly to comit to it explicitly which implies you know you could be wrong but are no man enough to admit you can be wrong.
If no, then you are just trolling because I don't need to give examples as what is the point of giving examples of what you already agree is true? ...[text shortened]... man cell DNA from having such mutations from also causing DNA in viruses from having such mutations?