Atheist Delusion

Originally posted by FMF
Do you ~ like josephw does ~ believe that people who do not share this belief of yours are mentally disturbed, deluded, and dishonest?

I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for the order of the universe that does not include God. If you have one feel free to share it.

Originally posted by FMF
There is not enough information to "make up [my] mind". So I remain open minded.

What in your opinion would be 'enough information' to make up your mind?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What in your opinion would be 'enough information' to make up your mind?

More information than we currently have and which gives us a clearer idea of what happened. It may not happen in my lifetime. But that's not a problem for me. I will die not knowing. Perhaps thousands more generations will die not knowing.

Originally posted by FMF
The new knowledge I mentioned in the hypothetical I posed.

It would obviously depend on whether I am hypothetically convinced by this hypothetical 'new information'. 🙄

FMF: Do you ~ like josephw does ~ believe that people who do not share this belief of yours are mentally disturbed, deluded, and dishonest?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for the order of the universe that does not include God. If you have one feel free to share it.

Hang on a sec. The question I asked was this: "Do you ~ like josephw does ~ believe that people who do not share this belief of yours are mentally disturbed, deluded, and dishonest?"

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
It would obviously depend on whether I am hypothetically convinced by this hypothetical 'new information'. 🙄

OK, based on the way you are behaving in the face of this hypothetical of mine, can I assume you will not be posing any more hypothetical questions of your own?

Originally posted by FMF
More information than we currently have and which gives us a clearer idea of what happened. It may not happen in my lifetime. But that's not a problem for me. I will die not knowing. Perhaps thousands more generations will die not knowing.

So if you found a fully functional spaceship would the spaceship itself not be sufficient evidence for the existence of a spaceship designer?

One human cell is more complex than a spaceship, by the way. And your fully functional body contains trillions of them.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What in your opinion would be 'enough information' to make up your mind?

This is a hypothetical. In reality, I will know what I think about new information when I become aware of it. I will know what "enough" is when I feel it is "enough". There you go. Your question is answered.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So if you found a fully functional spaceship would the spaceship itself not be sufficient evidence for the existence of a spaceship designer?

No more hypotheticals from you thanks. Try them on other people.

Originally posted by FMF
No more hypotheticals from you thanks. Try them on other people.

I am talking about a real space ship, not a hypothetical one. And I am talking about an actual cell in your body, not a hypothetical one. 🙂

Originally posted by FMF
This is a hypothetical. In reality, I will know what I think about new information when I become aware of it. I will know what "enough" is when I feel it is "enough". There you go. Your question is answered.

I still find it strange then that the information that convinced you of Christianity many years ago no longer does.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I still find it strange then that the information that convinced you of Christianity many years ago no longer does.

I am not interested in the fact that you find it strange.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I am talking about a real space ship, not a hypothetical one. And I am talking about an actual cell in your body, not a hypothetical one. 🙂

Your hypothetical is that the universe supposedly must have been designed because of blah blah blah spaceship blah blah blah. The fact of the matter is, from my point of view, neither of us know how the universe originated (or indeed if it's simply always been there). And while you have made your mind up that it was designed and created by the Christian god figure, I remain open minded.

Originally posted by FMF
I am not interested in the fact that you find it strange.

And neither should you since you are programmed what to believe and have no choice of your own. 😉

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
And neither should you since you are programmed what to believe and have no choice of your own. 😉

I am programmed what to believe and I have no choice of my own? What nonsense. I believe nothing of the sort, as you well know.