@kellyjay saidBut I don't have to, because this philosophy is not useful to me in any way. I gave it a fair chance, then I moved on.
You have to look at it from God’s perspective not ours, He cannot over look evil/sin in any degree unlike us who can say that is not so bad!
Perfectly righteous means exactly that, less than He would not be God, His righteousness, goodness and all His other attributes will remain in perfect harmony, none will suffer for the sake of another. Which is what you seem to be a ...[text shortened]... lie is not as bad as one who tells more. For His name sake is a big deal, He will not deny Himself.
19 Oct 23
@kellyjay saidAre there references to people who thought their outside appearance of righteousness is actually righteousness? If there are none then you are lying. Your church doctrine is fabricated nonsense.
Sin is corrupt, wicked, and what they were thinking was their righteousness by their understanding was not to God. Jesus called some white washed as on the outside they maintained an outward appearance of righteous, but inside they were something else.
@bigdogg saidThe problem is that the God who made the universe and everything in it is King, no matter if you like Him or not. If you are looking for what pleases you over Him, I am sure you will find something, wherever that takes you is up to Him, not you.
But I don't have to, because this philosophy is not useful to me in any way. I gave it a fair chance, then I moved on.
@kellyjay saidA problem for you perhaps.
The problem is that the God who made the universe and everything in it is King, no matter if you like Him or not. If you are looking for what pleases you over Him, I am sure you will find something, wherever that takes you is up to Him, not you.
@rajk999 saidYou have no idea what church I go to no matter how many times you tell people you do. Just one more lie from you. All of our righteousness before God is as filthy rags, you think yours isn’t, or can you point to anyone anywhere at any time outside of Christ who is good?
Are there references to people who thought their outside appearance of righteousness is actually righteousness? If there are none then you are lying. Your church doctrine is fabricated nonsense.
19 Oct 23
@kellyjay saidNot according to Christ.
All of our righteousness before God is as filthy rags,
All Good Samaritans will be in the Kingdom of God, and church people like the priest and Levite and your type, will be booted out into outer darkness, beause of your constant condemnation of people who do good works.
@rajk999 saidWhat chapter and verse do you see that, that something you made up?
Not according to Christ.
All Good Samaritans will be in the Kingdom of God, and church people like the priest and Levite and your type, will be booted out into outer darkness, beause of your constant condemnation of people who do good works.
@kellyjay saidIn other words, you think we are forced to follow the standard by an intractable God, even if we think it's awful. Got it.
The problem is that the God who made the universe and everything in it is King, no matter if you like Him or not. If you are looking for what pleases you over Him, I am sure you will find something, wherever that takes you is up to Him, not you.
20 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidExactly, you must have some hidden knowledge because all he told them was care for neighbors, where do you see all good Samaritans go to the kingdom of God?
.. Go, and do thou likewise. (Luke 10:37 KJV)
The thing that you also have to remember that the start of that conversation was a question that was pertinent and the answer was very specific! Even if you concatenate the how conversation started to include what is required with the Good Samaritan loving God comes before good works!
You can not remove God from this or anything to do with righteousness or redemption and you are forever leaving God out of all of this. Denying the Holy Spirit, denying the words Jesus about we must be born again, or how the Father seeks those who worship Him in Spirit and truth.
All of your requirements are just human efforts you ignore repentance, the cross, and put all your hopes in humanity efforts not Jesus Christ!
20 Oct 23
@bigdogg saidWell God who is good and righteous and will never be anything less than is worthy of following. As one who owes my very existence to Him is grateful and thankful He made a way for me to be forgiven for all I have done.
In other words, you think we are forced to follow the standard by an intractable God, even if we think it's awful. Got it.