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Originally posted by @fmfI never believed in the theory of evolution. First, as a child, my disbelief in the theory of evolution was based on intuition and belief in God. Later, it was based on intuition, belief in God and what I perceive as significant and fatal flaws with the theory.
Did you stop believing it four years ago when you became a Christian?
Originally posted by @romans1009You just didn't 'get' the OP. With him being a non-believer ~ and when it comes to morality ~ the notions of everlasting life, divine law and "sin" are taken out of the equation for Ghost of a Duke. Atheists have no notion of divine law.
We obviously disagree about what having a notion of something means. It would have been more accurate if Ghost had said he didn’t recognize divine law or didn’t put any credence in divine law. Saying he has no notion of it implies he’s never heard of it.
For you to claim that him saying he has no notion of divine law somehow implies he’s never heard of it makes you sound foolish, especially when you bear in mind he has a bachelor's degree in theology. Utterly foolish. There was absolutely nothing wrong with how he expressed himself.
You have been trying to conjure up a debating point out of your error. You ought to reread the OP, and then Ghost of a Duke's post, and then slap your forehead.
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Originally posted by @fmfHis post that you’re referring to was poorly worded. It would have accurately reflected his thinking/belief had he said he didn’t recognize divine law or he put no credence in it.
You just didn't 'get' the OP. With him being a non-believer ~ and when it comes to morality ~ the notions of everlasting life, divine law and "sin" are taken out of the equation for Ghost of a Duke. Atheists have no notion of divine law.
For you to claim that him saying he has no notion of divine law somehow implies he’s never heard of it makes you sound fo ...[text shortened]... error. You ought to reread the OP, and then Ghost of a Duke's post, and then slap your forehead.
He expressed himself quite badly in saying he had no notion of divine law. There’s just no getting around it.
You can argue with me until you’re blue in the face but you’ll still be wrong. Just accept it and move on.
Originally posted by @romans1009You are mistaken. It is worded just fine. An atheist who studied theology said "I have no notion of divine law" in reply to some discussion of my OP (...read the OP again for goodness sake). It is as clear as a bell. You are being completely disingenuous.
His post that you’re referring to was poorly worded.
Originally posted by @romans1009There's no getting around the fact Ghost of a Duke is an atheist and therefore he has no notion of divine law, as he put it so succinctly himself.
He expressed himself quite badly in saying he had no notion of divine law. There’s just no getting around it.
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Originally posted by @fmfWhatever. You’re starting the pool whizzing early tonight. Nothing happening in the Debates forum?
You are mistaken. It is worded just fine. An atheist who studied theology said "I have no notion of divine law" in reply to some discussion of my OP (...read the OP again for goodness sake). It is as clear as a bell. You are being completely disingenuous.
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Originally posted by @fmfSomeone saying they have no notion of something implies they know nothing about it or don’t know it exists.
Romans1009, are these fatuous posts of yours taking convoluted exception to an atheist reiterating that he has no notion of divine law a result of your "carnal mind" or do you think they are a result of the inspiration of "God's Holy Spirit"?
Not interested in your trolling. Please direct your whizz elsewhere.
Originally posted by @romans1009Not so if the person is a non-believer and theology graduate discussing the OP of this thread.
Someone saying they have no notion of something implies they know nothing about it or don’t know it exists.
Why would you think for even a split second that Ghost of a Duke doesn’t know "divine law" exists ~ even when he'd used the words "divine law" in the sentence he wrote and clearly understood what theist dj2becker had posted in so far as he was able to disagree with it?
What he was declaring about his beliefs could hardly have been more crystal clear.
Like Ghost of Duke, I have no notion of divine law that governs my morality. Do you seriously believe that this means I do not know that notions of divine law exist?
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Originally posted by @fmfOk wow. Lets walk through this. According to your definition of 'lying' you think I deliberately mislead people in everyday conversations on this forum? Really. Give me a few examples of me lying here in everyday conversations. Go on. If you can't do that you are lying by your own definition. Good luck proving that I have deliberately mislead people. (Which of course I haven't.)
No, I don't. I think you lie in everyday conversations on this forum ~ and I have tackled you about it in the past. You have also tackled me for what you saw as me lying about being a Christian earlier in my life. That's our estimation of each other. My estimation of Ghost of a Duke is that there is zero chance that he was lying on page 1 of this thread. Your estimation of him is that he lied, is that correct?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerYour dreary dishonest attempts to make me jump through repeating-myself hoops by pretending that we had not already discussed topics, questions, arguments, about which numerous other posters have commented, stretching back to your days as Fetchmyjunk. They were deliberate efforts to deceive people reading our exchanges as well as being examples of you lying to me.
Ok wow. Lets walk through this. According to your definition of 'lying' you think I deliberately mislead people in everyday conversations on this forum? Really. Give me one example of me lying here in everyday conversations. Go on. If you can't do that you are lying by your own definition.
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Originally posted by @fmfQuote any question that I asked you on 2 separate occasions that you had already answered. One example will be enough. Then when you're done prove that I did it deliberately. By your own definition that's impossible to prove. So would you calling me liar without proof be deliberate dishonesty on your part or an honest mistake?
Your dreary dishonest attempts to make me jump through repeating-myself hoops by pretending that we had not already discussed topics, questions, arguments, about which numerous other posters have commented, stretching back to your days as Fetchmyjunk. They were deliberate efforts to deceive people reading our exchanges as well as being examples of you lying to me.
18 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI can't be bothered.
Quote any question that I asked you on 2 separate occasions that you had already answered. One example will be enough. Then when you're done prove that I did it deliberately. Good luck with that.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI have been calling you a liar on this issue for about 2 years. The "without proof" thing right now is because I can't be bothered and is not a "mistake".
So would you calling me liar without proof be deliberate dishonesty on your part or an honest mistake?