Believers, Non-Believers & Morality

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If I had denied being Fetch, just like I am denying that I am Romans, how would you prove that I was lying?

"Prove" to whom? Me? You?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you believe dj is a liar or an honest person?

What are you on about?

Originally posted by @fmf
"Prove" to whom? Me? You?

Everyone reading this thread.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Just like you had enough evidence that I was Romans? Sounds legit. 🙄

You admitted you were Fetchmyjunk. Had you denied it you would have had to lie. You get that, right?

Denying it would not have given you any high moral ground, it would have just added lying to your deception.

To make clear, an unproven lie is still a lie. (And if you ask 'who to?' then, according to your own holy book,...GOD).

Originally posted by @fmf
What are you on about?

If you believe dj is a liar why do you believe him when he says he is fetch?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Everyone reading this thread.

I don't need to. What do I care whether people agree with me about you engaging in deceit or not? Either they remember the incident and know I am right (you were exposed after all, and admitted it); or they remember the incident and think what you did was OK and don't think you were deceitful; or, most likely they don't care.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
You admitted you were Fetchmyjunk. Had you denied it you would have had to lie. You get that, right?

Denying it would not have given you any high moral ground, it would have just added lying to your deception.

To make clear, an unproven lie is still a lie. (And if you ask 'who to?' then, according to your own holy book,...GOD).

How then as an atheist can you believe an unproven lie is still a lie if you don't believe in God?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you believe dj is a liar why do you believe him when he says he is fetch?

They are screen names. The person who has admitted to using one after the other deceitfully is you. "Fetchmyjunk" and "dj2people" are not separate people. The issue is you and your behaviour.

Originally posted by @fmf
They are screen names. The person who has admitted to using one after the other deceitfully is you. "Fetchmyjunk" and "dj2people" are not separate people. The issue is you and your behaviour.

You do remember that you have also admitted to using two screen names deceitfully don't you? What moral high ground to believe you are lecturing me from?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
How then as an atheist can you believe an unproven lie is still a lie if you don't believe in God?

My atheism is irrelevant here. As a Christian, it was incumbent upon 'you' to tell the truth. If you had lied, you would have been violating divine law, and in actuality, lying to your own God.

Do you disagree with that?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
My atheism is irrelevant here. As a Christian, it was incumbent upon 'you' to tell the truth. If you had lied, you would have been violating divine law, and in actuality, lying to your own God.

Do you disagree with that?

You are absolutely right. If you were in my shoes would it have been ok for you to lie since you don't believe in God and would therefore not have been seeing yourself as violating divine law?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You do remember that you have also admitted to using two screen names deceitfully don't you? What moral high ground to believe you are lecturing me from?

Yes, I remember all that. But I am not "lecturing" you from a "moral high ground" and have not claimed to be doing so. I am making observations and asking you questions about your behaviour - which you are mostly ignoring - and asking you what moral sensibilities or standards you believe you are exhibiting.

Originally posted by @fmf
Yes, I remember all that. But I am not "lecturing" you from a "moral high ground" and have not claimed to be doing so. I am making observations and asking you questions about your behaviour - which you are mostly ignoring - and asking you what moral sensibilities or standards you believe you are exhibiting.

Do you believe that you are an honest person and that I am dishonest?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you believe that you are an honest person and that I am dishonest?

In terms of the conversations there have been between you and me, and in terms of the gimmicks and rhetorical tricks you use when you discuss things with me, yes, I do. Undoubtedly. Aside from robbie carrobie, and in so far as you have interacted with me, I cannot recall a more dishonest poster in the 10+ years I have been here.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You do remember that you have also admitted to using two screen names deceitfully don't you? What moral high ground to believe you are lecturing me from?

What moral sensibilities or standards do you believe you are exhibiting on this thread?