Christians/Muslims

Originally posted by FMF
Are you or are you not - or have you ever been - a teacher of children as you have claimed?

I am, where are you going with this?

Originally posted by dj2becker
I was brainwashed, yes, but so is a kid that believes in the tooth fairy.

What threats such as...

~ being excommunicated

~ going to hell

~ being shunned like lepers.

~ parents disowning their children

...are attached to the propagation of the tooth fairy story?

Originally posted by FMF
[1] that the regime seemed normal to you at the time, and [2] that you claim to be unscathed by having grown up under that regime, do not turn psychological abuse into 'not psychological abuse'.

But you are defining 'psychological abuse' by your own terms. Neither the wiki link you provided nor the dictionary definition of 'abuse' describes my personal experience.

According to your definition of 'psychological abuse' (whatever that may be) I may have suffered 'psychological abuse' but not according to the dictionary definition.

Originally posted by FMF
What threats such as...

~ being excommunicated

~ going to hell

~ being shunned like lepers.

~ parents disowning their children

...are attached to the propagation of the tooth fairy story?

Abuse is defined as 'use for a bad purpose' or 'treat with violence or cruelty'. Do you agree with this definition?

Originally posted by dj2becker
I am, where are you going with this?

I have been working in education for over 35 years and I have never met any fellow educator who was as clueless about psychological abuse and the proper welfare of children as you, and who would use such an array of dishonest little gimmicks to try and defend his ignorant stance. Never in all my life.

It's as if you have never once reflected on what happened to you and how different it was from how children should be treated. And if you are a teacher and have responsibility for the education and development of children, then that is utterly shocking.

Originally posted by dj2becker
Abuse is defined as 'use for a bad purpose' or 'treat with violence or cruelty'. Do you agree with this definition?

Your reference to "Use for a bad purpose" is sophistry, as I have pointed out. It is a different usage of the word "abuse". I told you. You know this. You repeat it nevertheless.

"Cruelty" is the key word.

At what age were those despicable 'existential' threats brandished at you when you were a child?

Originally posted by dj2becker
But you are defining 'psychological abuse' by your own terms. Neither the wiki link you provided nor the dictionary definition of 'abuse' describes my personal experience.

According to your definition of 'psychological abuse' (whatever that may be) I may have suffered 'psychological abuse' but not according to the dictionary definition.

Nonsense.

Originally posted by FMF
I have been working in education for over 35 years and I have never met any fellow educator who was as clueless about psychological abuse and the proper welfare of children as you, and who would use such an array of dishonest little gimmicks to try and defend his ignorant stance. Never in all my life.

It's as if you have never once reflected on what happened ...[text shortened]... ave responsibility for the education and development of children, then that is utterly shocking.

If by 'clueless' you mean I don't make up my own definitions but rather stick with the dictionary definition then I am ok with that.

Originally posted by dj2becker
If by 'clueless' you mean I don't make up my own definitions but rather stick with the dictionary definition then I am ok with that.

Are you a qualified and licenced teacher?

Originally posted by FMF
Your reference to "Use for a bad purpose" is sophistry, as I have pointed out. It is a different usage of the word "abuse". I told you. You know this. You repeat it nevertheless.

"Cruelty" is the key word.

At what age were those despicable 'existential' threats brandished at you when you were a child?

As a kid who followed all the rules and who was never treated with violence or cruelty how do you think I was abused?

Originally posted by dj2becker
If by 'clueless' you mean I don't make up my own definitions but rather stick with the dictionary definition then I am ok with that.

When you trained to be a teacher did they teach you that "abuse" in "psychological abuse" was defined as "'use for a bad purpose'" as in 'abuse of funds', 'abuse of power', 'abuse of alcohol'? Is that what you were told?

Originally posted by dj2becker
As a kid who followed all the rules and who was never treated with violence or cruelty how do you think I was abused?

The nature of the threats. The deprivation. Of course it's cruelty.

Originally posted by FMF
When you trained to be a teacher did they teach you that "abuse" in "psychological abuse" was defined as "'use for a bad purpose'" as in 'abuse of funds', 'abuse of power', 'abuse of alcohol'? Is that what you were told?

I was trained to teach Science, not psychology.

Originally posted by FMF
The nature of the threats. The deprivation. Of course it's cruelty.

So you would rather have your kids exposed to drugs alcohol and sex from a young age? As an adult I kind of feel thankful that I was protected from all those things.

Originally posted by dj2becker
I was trained to teach Science, not psychology.

Did you get your qualification from a diploma mill?

How on earth could you qualify as a teacher and be licensed as one - without studying the psychology of education, child development and ethics alongside your 'subject' matter and curriculum studies?