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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeBut when you educate them that there are no moral absolutes and that everyone decides for themselves what is right and wrong and they evolved from monkeys and there is no God that is not brainwashing. 🙄
Children in schools are 'educated.'
People in cults are 'brainwashed.'
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07 Jun 17
Originally posted by dj2beckerIf you were indeed part of a cult, it is not surprising you are oblivious to what brainwashing actually means and how it is a form of psychological abuse.
But when you educate them that there are no moral absolutes and that everyone decides for themselves what is right and wrong and they evolved from monkeys and there is no God that is not brainwashing. 🙄
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07 Jun 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSo when it suits you I wasn't part of a cult, and when it suits you I was. So which is it now?
If you were indeed part of a cult, it is not surprising you are oblivious to what brainwashing actually means and how it is a form of psychological abuse.
Originally posted by dj2beckerIf I were a trainee teacher and I had written the stuff you have said on this thread (for the sake of argument, let's assume your story is true), I would be worried that my lecturers might see it. It'd be as if I had slept though all modules on the protection and development of children.
It is not a diploma mill, I studied philosophy of education as well as child development yes. Cults were not part of the curriculum no.
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Originally posted by FMFThe question you are still dodging is this, would a student be experiencing psychological abuse if the said student obeys all the rules of your class even if the consequences of breaking those rules are very harsh? Yes or No?
If I were a trainee teacher and I had written the stuff you have said on this thread (for the sake of argument, let's assume your story is true), I would be worried that my lecturers might see it. It'd be as if I had slept though all modules on the protection and development of children.
07 Jun 17
Originally posted by dj2beckerYou won't see any examples of psychological abuse in a normal healthy classroom environment. If you want a textbook snapshot of psychological abuse through rules, threats, punishments and deprivation then just reread the account of what you claim you experienced and those of the other victims you told us to read.
The question you are still dodging is this, would a student be experiencing psychological abuse if the said student obeys all the rules of your class even if the consequences of breaking those rules are very harsh? Yes or No?
07 Jun 17
Originally posted by dj2beckerif the said student obeys all the rules of your class
The question you are still dodging is this, would a student be experiencing psychological abuse if the said student obeys all the rules of your class even if the consequences of breaking those rules are very harsh? Yes or No?
Rules like no watching TV, or no believing different things, no thinking for yourself, or no talking to girls, or being forced to marry someone?
If you have classroom rules analogous to these list them.
If they are truly comparable, then yes we are probably talking about there being psychological abuse of some degree.
if the consequences of breaking those rules are very harsh?
If the harsh "consequences" are analogous to children being treated "like lepers", the threat of being tortured for eternity, being ostracized by ones own family, or any of the violence that was rife in your cult (according to the web site you provided), then yes we are talking about there being psychological abuse.
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07 Jun 17
Originally posted by FMFWhy did you then have to quote wikipedia for a definition of psychological abuse? Also, which part of the definition you quoted do you think applies to me personally?
Did you get your qualification from a diploma mill?
How on earth could you qualify as a teacher and be licensed as one - without studying the psychology of education, child development and ethics alongside your 'subject' matter and curriculum studies?
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Originally posted by FMFEither rules, threats, punishments and deprivation amounts to psychological abuse or they don't. So which is it. You can't have it both ways.
You won't see any examples of psychological abuse in a normal healthy classroom environment. If you want a textbook snapshot of psychological abuse through rules, threats, punishments and deprivation then just reread the account of what you claim you experienced and those of the other victims you told us to read.
07 Jun 17
Originally posted by dj2beckerDid I? If I did then it would be because you seem to have absolutely no clue what it is.
Why did you then have to quote wikipedia for a definition of psychological abuse?
Also, which part of the definition you quoted do you think applies to me personally?
The account you gave of how you were raised as a child (as well as those of others who were raised in the same environment) seems to me to be textbook psychological abuse. You can make what you want of what it says at wikipedia. You should have read plenty of articles about child development and various forms of abuse including deprivation and cruel coercion if you actually did train to be a teacher and didn't get your licence online.