Originally posted by dj2beckerI wouldn't brainwash my children no. I wouldn't attempt to brainwash anyone's children. One doesn't need to brainwash children in order to educate them.
If you believed that the use of drugs and alcohol was wrong, would you be brainwashing your kids if you told them that?
Originally posted by FMFHow about, if you drink alcohol in my classroom you will be expelled from the school?
What threats? What punishments? What rules? Give me examples. We are discussing what you described about the abuse you suffered. I don't see the parallel with my undergraduates ~ whom I treat as adults. What existential-level threats do you think I hold over them? And what testimonies do you imagine my ex-students would be making about my 'rules and punishments' if there were a web site dedicated to their memory of being under my care and mentorship?
Originally posted by dj2beckerAnd what is this an analogy for?
How about, if you drink alcohol in my classroom you will be expelled from the school?
How is being expelled from school analogous to a child being shunned by your family, sent to hell, and treated like a leper?
If a child was drunk, I'd be thinking in terms of their welfare and solving the problem, liaising with their family or social services, rather than punishment.
Originally posted by FMFHow can it be done?
[b]Would you classify teaching your children what you believe to be good morals as 'brainwashing'?
No. It can be done without brainwashing.
So what qualifies as 'brainwashing' in your opinion?
The stuff you described about the way you were brought up.[/b]
Originally posted by dj2beckerIn the situation I was referring to, you (FMJ) copy pasted from a website exactly as I stated previously. This may not be the same situation that FMF is talking about, but it happened nevertheless. I'm quite sure you will deny it and that's fine.
The words I wrote were 100% my own words, anyone with half a brain who actually bothers to open the link and read what is written there can see that. You claim that I copy/pasted stuff is a lie. Are you ever going to own up to this lie?
Thread 168868 may by the one FMF is referring to, it is not what I was talking about.
FMF: No. I am not going to discuss my children or my family with you.What I said is that I am not going to discuss my relationship with my children with you
Originally posted by dj2becker
If you want to believe that parents who teach their children good morals amounts to brainwashing, that's fine with me.