Christians/Muslims

Originally posted by dj2becker
My parents were just as indoctrinated as everyone else for many years, the moment they saw the light they left. They have apologized and expressed their regret, it is something we have all put behind us.

Loss of faith is a loss of faith ~ in so far as the faith you were brainwashed into accepting is concerned. I am more curious about whether your parents have taken personal responsibility for being complicit in your psychological abuse and deprivation. Presumably not. Assuming the story isn't just something you have made up, one assumes that they are in denial exactly as you are.

Originally posted by dj2becker
What about children who are raised by atheist parents? Are they not indoctrinated or brainwashed to believe what their parents believe?

I have certainly come across some atheist parents who have indoctrinated their children about supernatural things, but probably I have probably come across more who have instead succeeded in equipping their offspring with the life skills and tools to find their own way in spiritual terms. I have met plenty of Christians, for example, who came from atheist families.

Originally posted by FMF
Loss of faith is a loss of faith ~ in so far as the faith you were brainwashed into accepting is concerned. I am more curious about whether your parents have taken personal responsibility for being complicit in your psychological abuse and deprivation. Presumably not. Assuming the story isn't just something you have made up, one assumes that they are in denial exactly as you are.

My faith in God has not wavered. I have just moved away from man made laws (and the spiritual death it brings) that are not supported by scripture.

Originally posted by dj2becker
My faith in God has not wavered. I have just moved away from man made laws (and the spiritual death it bring)s that are not supported by scripture.

You had a loss of faith in the toxic nonsense that Kwasizabantu propagated. I'm not interested in that. I am more curious about the other thing (your parents' complicity in the abuse of their children) ...but, of course, if you try to discuss it, either your deception will be ever more obvious, or (if the story were true) the fact that you are still damaged by brainwashing will be all the more obvious. A lose-lose situation for you. So I suppose you will just dodge it.

Originally posted by FMF
You had a loss of faith in the toxic nonsense that Kwasizabantu propagated. I'm not interested in that. I am more curious about the other thing (your parents' complicity in the abuse of their children) ...but, of course, if you try to discuss it, either your deception will be ever more obvious, or (if the story were true) the fact that you are still damaged by ...[text shortened]... ill be all the more obvious. A lose-lose situation for you. So I suppose you will just dodge it.

So what exactly do you think blaming my parents will achieve?

Originally posted by dj2becker
So what exactly do you think blaming my parents will achieve?

Taking responsibility in matters like these is not the same as merely 'taking the blame'. You think like an adolescent.

Originally posted by FMF
Taking responsibility in matters like these is not the same as merely 'taking the blame'. You think like an adolescent.

Ok genius, tell me how having my parents 'take responsibility' will benefit me. I already told you my parents have shown remorse and apologised. If that is not 'taking responsibility' then what is? What more do you expect them to do?

Originally posted by dj2becker
I already told you my parents have shown remorse and apologised.

For what have they shown remorse and apologised?

Originally posted by FMF
For what have they shown remorse and apologised?

For having me grow up in a cult, genius. And for me not having a normal life as a result for most of my life.

Originally posted by dj2becker
For having me grow up in a cult, genius. And for me not having a normal life as a result for most of my life.

For what specifically have they shown remorse and apologised?

Originally posted by FMF
For what [b]specifically have they shown remorse and apologised?[/b]

See my specific post above.

Originally posted by dj2becker
See my specific post above.

You need to answer the question. You have only talked in very general terms as if you have little clue what you are talking about ~ which either indicates that you are in deep denial, or you have bitten off a made-up story that you are unable to chew.

Originally posted by FMF
You need to answer the question. You have only talked in very general terms as if you have little clue what you are talking about ~ which either indicates that you are in deep denial, or you have bitten off a made-up story that you are unable to chew.

Oh so when I ask you a question about your past you can deflect it but I need to answer all your questions? Who do you think you are? Dr. Phil?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Oh so when I ask you a question about your past your can deflect it but I need to answer all your questions?

No, you don't need to answer my questions at all.

But you volunteered the story, albeit as a debating gambit.

But I know why you're pulling the plug all of a sudden.

You should never have made the whole codswallop story up in the first place.

Originally posted by FMF
No, you don't need to answer my questions at all.

But you volunteered the story, albeit as a debating gambit.

But I know why you're pulling the plug all of a sudden.

You should never have made the whole codswallop story up in the first place.

The fact that I volunteered my story doesn't mean I have to follow your needy boring repetitious routine of questioning. I have seen through your little game, and I don't believe your motives are pure.