Comments on the trinity by ones who believe in the trinity....

@kellyjay said
The prophet was, God was, and after the meal I'm sure the lion was too. The fact is we are all going to end, each and everyone of us. Each day is a blessing to be thankful for, and we each have things we need to do. There are many examples of people being told they must do something for example in times of war where they were going to die doing them, and yet they get told to ...[text shortened]... to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up.”

With respect Kelly, a painfully weak response and akin to 'God can do whatever he wants.'

We're all going to die one day so what does it matter if that guy was eaten by a lion? - It matters Kelly as you are selling that God as righteous.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
With respect Kelly, a painfully weak response and akin to 'God can do whatever he wants.'

We're all going to die one day so what does it matter if that guy was eaten by a lion? - It matters Kelly as you are selling that God as righteous.

Being God who would He answer to outside of Himself?

@divegeester said
So in the 11 years you’ve been posting here, one person sent you a private text asking you about the JW org.

Wow, you must feel like the light of Jehovah is upon you.

You're good dive, yes you are great at twisting what people say as far and as much as you can. You are either an idiot or a classic jester.... But you are not worth my time.

@kellyjay said
The word Trinity isn't either book of the Bible, I imagine that may have something to do with why no one said it. Have you the ability to tell me what I do believe about the Trinity?

Lol. Not in the slightest. Well I'm going to let it go. Your a good guy so lets let it be. But let me say this. The trinity may not seem that important as long as you love God. I believe you do. But all evidence says it's not biblical, there is no one on any equal terms with Jehovah that has existed or will ever exist. Nothing would exist, not even Jesus if he was not for Jehovah. Thank goodness he created Jesus and Jesus loves him beyond what we can ever imagine and that includes him giving up his life for us.
Who do you pray to? Make sure you are praying to the Father Jehovah. Jesus is not the one our prayers are to be directed too but only thru. Perhaps if you direct them that way you may get a clearer understanding of who they actually are.

Should we pray to Jesus?

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20150101/should-we-pray-to-jesus/#?insight[search_id]=c02af078-f223-4174-a122-0cd0ec12d127&insight[search_result_index]=29

@ghost-of-a-duke said
With respect Kelly, a painfully weak response and akin to 'God can do whatever he wants.'

We're all going to die one day so what does it matter if that guy was eaten by a lion? - It matters Kelly as you are selling that God as righteous.

It is a matter of Lordship; even in this life among men, when a man refuses to a king's face his command there are going to be consequences for that man. If a man refuses a direct order from a superior in the military depending on the setting, that to will be a cause of consequences. With God who is the highest authority consequences are a reality. In our world among men you can see police give orders to people on the street that have weapons in hands to drop their weapons and comply with their orders, they have the legal authority to end people’s lives that do not obey them under lawful conditions, and with God, He is lawful, good, and righteous all the time. As I said, the starting point is God is good, righteous, and just if you twist that you are not looking at the whole of scripture, you are cherry-picking parts to make your point. When you have to look at all of the scripture, the whole of scripture does not give us that right to make it say what we want, we have to accept it as is.

As the creator of the universe, and being Lord and King of all if God gives and order you think it is nothing to refuse Him, He isn't worthy to be obeyed? Like I said if you want to justify your version of god you can make Him out to be anything you want, but if you take the God of scripture as the scripture describes Him you are talking about someone not made by human hands, neither can He be forced to do anyone's will but His own.

@galveston75 said
Lol. Not in the slightest. Well I'm going to let it go. Your a good guy so lets let it be. But let me say this. The trinity may not seem that important as long as you love God. I believe you do. But all evidence says it's not biblical, there is no one on any equal terms with Jehovah that has existed or will ever exist. Nothing would exist, not even Jesus if he was not for ...[text shortened]... y-to-jesus/#?insight[search_id]=c02af078-f223-4174-a122-0cd0ec12d127&insight[search_result_index]=29

You have not addressed my points, I have given several. Outside of saying you don't believe in the Trinity you have not articulated what I've been saying the Trinity is yet, so to tell you the truth I don't know if you understand the doctrine to dismiss it. If we are not talking about the same thing our agreements and disagreements are not on proper topic.

@divegeester said

Edit: “theological termite” is one of your better personal remarks btw, but I’m not sure it’s the insult you are looking for as termites are incredible creatures of industry, teamwork and innovation.

I don't know about innovation, but I do know that termites are blind except for the royals. Are you styling yourself King Termite these days?

Poor @divegeester, doomed or perhaps chosen to be the Termite, the Tortoise, and the Dove (among other beasts, but I'm trying to stick to the Trinity theme).

@KellyJay

I'm very sorry I missed your question if dive had not responded to you using this I would have missed it completely.

God is One, so your question I don't understand what your are asking, it is like you want to turn God from 3 persons in one being, into 3 persons and 3 beings.

Praise the Lord for the humbling.
I thought you would understand and agree that "We" has to be God, period!

I guess I sounded like I was picking a debate with you. What a backfire.

Notice though, you sought to critique my motive. But you didn't answer the question.

You could answer and add what you think is motivating the question.
But then I can very directly tell you what motivates the question.

We would do well to believe the word of God even when it is paradoxical and mysterious. (Which it sometimes is).

God is One, so your question I don't understand what your are asking,

The God of Israel Who is ONE is the Son and the Father who come to make an abode with the lovers of Christ. The three of the Trinity are distinct but not separate. One lives within the other within the other. Don't waste time or effort trying to deny "We" is a plural pronoun.

Galveston,

Of course a Christian can pray to the Lord Jesus !
If you have no love to pray to Jesus, that's your cold heart towards Jesus.

Your article said:

Faithful men and women reserved prayer for God alone.—Philippians 4:6.

Stephen being stoned prayed out to Jesus, Don't waste your breath trying to teach me that Stephen didn't pray to Jesus.

Acts 7:59,60.

Paul prayed to the Lord Jesus three times for a certain physical problem to be removed from him. And Jesus answered that His grace was sufficient for him.

2 Cor. 12:7-9.

There is no "Thou Shalt Not Pray to Jesus" in the Bible.
And don't waste your breath on me trying to convince me Acts 7:59,60 and 2 Cor, 12:7-9 is somehow not praying to the Lord Jesus.

@galveston75 said
You're good dive, yes you are great at twisting what people say as far and as much as you can. You are either an idiot or a classic jester.... But you are not worth my time.

I just see things Galveston75, I see through things, I have antenna for the BS that some posters come out with from time to time. Like you did with that claim.

You are most certainly worth my time in that respect.

@caesar-salad said
Are you styling yourself King Termite these days?

I’m not styling myself of anything, I just post as I see fit and reply to what I see.

@kellyjay said
Being God who would He answer to outside of Himself?

Again, the act he refused to do was strike the prophet with his sword. For this he was punished by being eaten by a lion.

If you can balance that with a righteous God, good for you.

@sonship said
@KellyJay

I'm very sorry I missed your question if dive had not responded to you using this I would have missed it completely.

God is One, so your question I don't understand what your are asking, it is like you want to turn God from 3 persons in one being, into 3 persons and 3 beings.

Praise the Lord for the humbling.
I thought you would understand ...[text shortened]... e other within the other. Don't waste time or effort trying to deny "We" is a plural pronoun.

I'm not sure you grasped my answer, but I'm not overly concern about it.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Again, the act he refused to do was strike the prophet with his sword. For this he was punished by being eaten by a lion.

If you can balance that with a righteous God, good for you.

Don't you balance that with a righteous God, who is the King of the universe that is Lord overall? The rebellion was to do what God said not to do, and that act was not to do what God said to do. You think God should have been okay, I know I told you to do something and you refused to go on as nothing occurred? Yes, I do balance that with a righteous God, He is righteous and disobeying Him always comes with a cost, always even in this world when we don't live our lives as we should in sleeping around we get disease, children without fathers, children who don't know who their fathers are, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, in our greed we steal, lie, cheat, create false balances, and the list goes on. God is God, that seems to be the real issue for you. I think you have not even considered the righteousness of God and are more concern about the men not being able to ignore Him without cost.

@KellyJay

I'm not sure you grasped my answer, but I'm not overly concern about it.

It is not that I "want" to do anything except trust what the revelation of the word of God has told us.

The one God of Israel also spoke of Himself as "We". If there is something I "want", I want to trust my God that He has told me the truth.