24 Dec 19
@caesar-salad saidEveryday you turn up here you make it abundantly clear that you have nothing to contribute to the topics being discussed.
You should work in television, Dive. That sounds like a winning "elevator pitch."
I bet HBO, Netflix, and Amazon are looking you or your agent up right now for production rights. 😉
@divegeester saidIt's as if we are twin flames. 😉
Everyday you turn up here you make it abundantly clear that you have nothing to contribute to the topics being discussed.
@galveston75 saidI never said Jesus was or wasn't Jehovah, that wasn't the topic, neither was it the question. I did answer your question as it relates to salvation, you need me to repeat it?
Everything does. And all the scriptures you posted say nothing about Jesus being Jehovah.
Now can you answer my question.... Can one be a Christian and not believe the trinity?
24 Dec 19
@galveston75 saidPersonally, I'd like to hear you tell me what my view of the Trinity is since I've given you plenty of information to grasp it, because so far I am not convinced you do understand it.
Two questions I'd like answered.
Does one have to believe in the trinity to be Christian?
Do any of the trinitairians here think the Babylonian trinity is the same on a basic level as yours?
24 Dec 19
@kellyjay saidIm not sure you understand anything either.
Personally, I'd like to hear you tell me what my view of the Trinity is since I've given you plenty of information to grasp it, because so far I am not convinced you do understand it.
You said:
The Son is not equal with the Father,
He is equal in that they are both God
@rajk999 saidAnd?
Im not sure you understand anything either.
You said:
The Son is not equal with the Father,
He is equal in that they are both God
Two men can be soldiers while one out ranks the other.
Both being God, uncreated, uncaused, and yet the Father is greater than the Son.
You cannot put that together?
@kellyjay saidI don't believe in either of the Gods. (The one in the OT or the one in the NT).
I was speaking to how many gods/God there is in the Bible. You wish to paint the one (g)od you don't believe in as evil that too is up to you.
24 Dec 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThis is why your opinion about God, to me, is like a blind man disputing that there is no such thing as colors. You don't see God throughout the OT and NT, you are blind to Him. Thus you make it up as you go, ignoring some passages of scripture that don't fit your views and making a big deal out of things that suit you. The verses that do speak to God's character you ignore as you attempt to paint Him as something less than.
I don't believe in either of the Gods. (The one in the OT or the one in the NT).
24 Dec 19
@caesar-salad saidNot really, in fact not at all.
It's as if we are twin flames. 😉
I have been a consistent active poster in this forum on virtually a daily basis for the past decade. I have commented with a consistent approach, on-topic, across hundreds, possibly thousands of threads. I have started countless threads on spiritual and Christian topics, certain of which have been some of the longest running debates we’ve had here. I contend for Christian truth, I challenge other Christian posters without seeking favour or partisan allegiance and I hold fast to what I believe on the core topics without hiding behind deflection or ignoring people. I am combative and engaged and I am a Christian.
What are you in this forum?
24 Dec 19
@kellyjay saidGo re-read the OT. (In its entirety).There are passages in those books you seem to have glossed over or mentally suppressed.
This is why your opinion about God, to me, is like a blind man disputing that there is no such thing as colors. You don't see God throughout the OT and NT, you are blind to Him. Thus you make it up as you go, ignoring some passages of scripture that don't fit your views and making a big deal out of things that suit you. The verses that do speak to God's character you ignore as you attempt to paint Him as something less than.
@ghost-of-a-duke said“Hear oh Israel, the Lord your God is ONE”
Go re-read the OT. (In its entirety).There are passages in those books you seem to have glossed over or mentally suppressed.
Being the most obvious.
KellyJay,
Divegeester wrote faithfully -
“Hear oh Israel, the Lord your God is ONE”
Being the most obvious.
I have a question for you KellyJay. In this passage of John 14:23, which one of the divine "We" is the God of Israel who is One and which one is NOT ? Or is "We" that God of Israel who is ONE?
"Jesus answered and said to him, If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make an abode with him." (John 14:23)
Is it that Jesus is the God of Israel who is one and the Father is not?
Or is it that the Father is the God of Israel and that the Son Jesus is not?
OR is it that both Jesus and His Father as the divine "We" is the God of Israel who is ONE ?
I believe that the We who comes to impart God into man to make an abode with him, is the God of Israel who is one.