28 Dec 19
@medullah saidThe only thing literal about that dragon was it was part of the vision, beyond that who knows and cares?
Correct, as are all the beasts in Revelation and Daniel, they are all representative of political governments/institutions. E.G British Lion; American Eagle; Russian Bear; French Cockerill; New Zealand Kiwi; Scottish Unicorn (got to be the best).
Man life as a Canadian is boring, a flipping leaf.
One day we might actually agree on something Mr D. Maybe sometime on in 2020.
I hope that everone has a great run-in to NYE and enjoys themselves.
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28 Dec 19
@kellyjay saidYou clearly don’t understand what the word “literal” means and have allowed your ignorance, probably deliberately so, to misinform and reinforce your erroneous perspective of the scriptures of Revelation.
The only thing literal about that dragon was it was part of the vision, beyond that who knows and cares?
Why don’t you reply to me by proxy via Medullah so you can continue to avoid the intellectual challenge by pretending you have consigned me to Satan and shaken the metaphorical dust from your metaphorical shoe (don’t work Medullah will explain it).
28 Dec 19
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I sincerely hope not, it's going to seriously effect house prices in the area where thoses things turn up.
28 Dec 19
@fmf saidA couple here are going to get upset but why isn't it from Satan? Did it come from Jehovah? No it didn't.
You believe the theology of the "Trinity" is "Satanic"?
You can only have the truth of a fact. Not a half truth, not a partial truth, not an up to ones each individual opinion.
All truth comes from Jehovah. The bible says that clearly by saying " God cannot lie".
If one really tries to understand that statement, then one might begin to understand Jehovah and all that he teaches us in the Bible.
Where he says he is (1 ) God, does that leave anything open for us to interpret it, or give us the right to alter that with whatever ideas or opinions that we may feel the need to do.
If one is (((( seriously )))) looking for the real truth with such subjects as the trinity and it's many versions and all the doubts that it produces along with historical evidence of it's origins, then perhaps one needs to go back to the source of truth the Bible and start with the simplest of scriptures such as the one I just quoted where he says he is (1) God and go from that truth, it's his words, and say "OK that is what he said so if I'm going to find the truth, this is where I start".
If one finds in their search glitches or not such good origins of a teaching then one should go back to the bible and find the other scriptures that still reinforce the (1) God teaching the Bible over and over explains.
If one finds scriptures that seem to back up the trinity where others don't then one should tell themselves that Jehovah does not lie, he would never have the Bible written to make us doubt that.
So with those very few scriptures that seem to contradict the (1) GOD belief pop up, one has to seriously ask Jehovah for direction just as Jesus told us to do and what seemed to be confusing will become clear.
Satan is at complete fault with all lies JUST as the bible says "he is the originator of the lie" with Adam & Eve. So why would he not be involved in any lie or misconception he can add to any truths that can twist into them?
All it takes is the smallest lie to distort any truth. Satan is the ultimate master of this.
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28 Dec 19
@galveston75 saidThe notion that alternative beliefs to those propagated by your version of christianity are “satanic” is simply a reinforcement of the leadership’s dogma and is required to keep members like yourself, your parents, presumably their parents and probably your own children, locked into the cult.
A couple here are going to get upset but why isn't it from Satan? Did it come from Jehovah? No it didn't.
You can only have the truth of a fact. Not a half truth, not a partial truth, not an up to ones each individual opinion.
All truth comes from Jehovah. The bible says that clearly by saying " God cannot lie".
If one really tries to understand that statement, th ...[text shortened]... hem?
All it takes is the smallest lie to distort any truth. Satan is the ultimate master of this.
28 Dec 19
@divegeester saidYou really should just not talk. What a waste of our time.
The notion that alternative beliefs to those propagated by your version of christianity are “satanic” is simply a reinforcement of the leadership’s dogma and is required to keep members like yourself, your parents, presumably their parents and probably your own children, locked into the cult.
29 Dec 19
@galveston75 saidIt is a waste of time talking to someone who cares more about motivation mongering than truth, when you are the subject and continue to be, just know there is not real interest in reality only making you look bad. I promise you if you engage with people who care more about strife than truth you will be the target, I also promise you that if you stop engaging with them that will not change anything either, you'll still be a target it is all they know, and in the end care about. Just note how many discussions here turn into personal discussions about each other and how few stay on topic, or how many topics become the people who are here.
You really should just not talk. What a waste of our time.
2 Timothy 3 English Standard Version (ESV)
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
29 Dec 19
@kellyjay saidThere is probably nobody in this community who mischaracterizes other posters' motivations as much as you do and you pretty obviously do it to dodge the content of their posts. Oh, the irony.
It is a waste of time talking to someone who cares more about motivation mongering than truth, when you are the subject and continue to be, just know there is not real interest in reality only making you look bad.
29 Dec 19
@kellyjay saidYour inability to reply to posts is part of the discourse in a public arena like this.
I also promise you that if you stop engaging with them that will not change anything either, you'll still be a target it is all they know, and in the end care about.
29 Dec 19
@kellyjay saidOh the irony, and hey presto, a Bible quote tossed in to spray a bit of "holy" deodorant on your hypocrisy.
Just note how many discussions here turn into personal discussions about each other and how few stay on topic, or how many topics become the people who are here.
2 Timothy 3 English Standard Version (ESV)
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29 Dec 19
@galveston75 saidI can fully understand why you a generational cult member would say that to me, a free and independent Christian who is unbounded by your religious dogmas and sensations of group security and belonging.
You really should just not talk. What a waste of our time.
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@divegeester saidDive, you are not a "free and independent Christian" -- you're just a jackass. Wake up.
I can fully understand why you a generational cult member would say that to me, a free and independent Christian who is unbounded by your religious dogmas and sensations of group security and belonging.
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29 Dec 19
@caesar-salad saidNow who does that remind me of....
Dive, you are not a "free and independent Christian" -- you're just a jackass. Wake up.