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Here's an opportunity for me to learn from your evaluation of my teachings here how they might measure up in style to what I hold as Paul's standard.
"But the slave of the Lord ought not to contend but be gentle toward all, apt to teach, bearing with wrong; In meekness correcting those who oppose, if perhaps God may give them repentance unto the full knowledge of the truth." (2 Tim. 2:25)
Grade me on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest.
1.) ought not to contend
2.) be gentle toward all
3.) apt to teach
4.) bearing with wrong
5.) in meekness
This evaluation is somewhat following Divegeester's example request to be diagnosed.
And there are no grades less then 1. Okay?
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@rookie54
I think to "bear with wrong" means a kind of tolerance, not fidgety,
forbearing and not quickly vindicative.
Bearing with wrong is being patient.
Bearing with wrong is being empathetic perhaps.
It is putting your self in the other person's place to ascertain what they are able to take. Bearing with wrong because it is the truth that matters rather than saving face or personal one-upsmanship.
@sonship saidI would say that you should read the passage immediately preceding the one you quoted and start there. Before you consider yourself a slave of the Lord, take this advice from Paul :
Here's an opportunity for me to learn from your evaluation of my teachings here how they might measure up in style to what I hold as Paul's standard.
"But the slave of the Lord ought not to contend but be gentle toward all, apt to teach, bearing with wrong; In meekness correcting those who oppose, if perhaps God may give them repentance unto the full knowledge of the truth." (2 Tim. 2:25)
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. (2 Timothy 2:21-23 KJV)
Paul is telling you to
- purge yourself from evil
- Stop lusting
- Follow righteousness, faith charity and peace.
Have you done these things? Are you trying? Are you telling people to do these things as well?
You are not a slave of the Lord. you are a slave of some church promoting the doctrine of the church and forcing your false doctrines of dead faith on the gullible and innocent
@sonship saidI think you are not suited to teaching, temperamentally speaking and in terms of your personality.
Here's an opportunity for me to learn from your evaluation of my teachings here how they might measure up in style to what I hold as Paul's standard.
As an active Christian who has hours and hours, day in day out, week in week out, month in month out, year in year out, to "give" to Rajk999, divegeester, me, Ghost of a Duke, BigDoggProblem, chaney3 and so on, I would say you should consider pouring yourself into other things.
Things like working with the poor, the disabled, the aged, in a soup kitchen, with the homeless, with drug addicts, or driving Christian youth around to events, or running an office for some Christian organization involved in good works of some kind, fundraising, building schools or clinics, etc. etc.
As a teacher, you come across as a stiff and ill-tempered regurgitator of rote-learned and internalized dogma; I don't think it is your true calling at all.
I think you are not suited to it in interpersonal terms. I think you'd be better off walking your Christian walk in some other way and then just using this message board as a place to interact, on the level, with other diverse conversationalists and exhibiting your "relationship" with Jesus through your demeanour and behaviour.
@fmf saidNot everyone is suited to teach.
I think you are not suited to teaching, temperamentally speaking and in terms of your personality.
As an active Christian who has hours and hours, day in day out, week in week out, month in month out, year in year out, to "give" to Rajk999, divegeester, me, Ghost of a Duke, BigDoggProblem, chaney3 and so on, I would say you should consider pouring yourself into other things. ...[text shortened]... nversationalists and exhibiting your "relationship" with Jesus through your demeanour and behaviour.
My first husband skis black diamond rated slopes. He tried when we were first dating, but could not teach me to ski, likely, in part, because I declined to listen to him.
Years later, I took lessons from someone else and I learned to ski to blue rated slopes.
Student-to-teacher relationship is essential and not guaranteed by ulterior relationships between the same people. It is also very difficult to determine student-to-teacher relationships on the internet...maybe that’s why Jesus taught people in nature after he fed them.
@hakima saidIf the motivation to teach is rooted in apparent self-importance and also in a kind of state of being obsessed with one's own material rather than in a genuine interest in one's students, I think all the sincerity in the world may not be able to salvage the teaching-learning project.
Not everyone is suited to teach.
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My threads frequently are undergirded by personal experience as a Christian.
Much of what I write is about what I have seen and heard.
And of course I have a life away from sitting here at the PC. As I assume most of the other participants here do as well - other duties and activities.
@sonship saidYeah, but none of this means you are suited to teaching. One can only go by the character and behaviour you present here.
My threads frequently are undergirded by personal experience as a Christian.
Much of what I write is about what I have seen and heard.
And of course I have a life away from sitting here at the PC. As I assume most of the other participants here do as well - other duties and activities.
@sonship saidBased on the theads you start here, I'd say you are one of the most think-your-way-to-everlasting-life, and least walk-the-walk, Christians I have ever encountered, and I have been around Christians all my life.
My threads frequently are undergirded by personal experience as a Christian.
@sonship saidI beg to differ. Almost the only stuff you write about is arid, convoluted, ersatz-eggheaded dogma. If, as you claim, much of what you write is about what you have seen and heard, then one has to conclude that much of what you have seen and heard in your Christian life - or at least that part of it you choose to bring here - is arid, convoluted dogma. Getting high off the fumes of reciting one's own ideology is not the stuff teachers are made of.
Much of what I write is about what I have seen and heard.
@sonship saidI’m not going to “score” you because the outcome will feed either your pride or your victimhood.
Here's an opportunity for me to learn from your evaluation of my teachings here how they might measure up in style to what I hold as Paul's standard.
[b]"But the slave of the Lord ought not to contend but be gentle toward all, apt to teach, bearing with wrong; In meekness correcting those who oppose, if perhaps God may give them repentance unto the full knowledge of the ...[text shortened]... lowing Divegeester's example request to be diagnosed.
And there are no grades less then 1. Okay?
Like the JWs in here before you, you feed off of the derision that comes at you due to your spiritual pride and stubborn foghorn style of posting. As with the JWs, you feed off it under the misapprehension that it is “persecution”, that you are being persecuted like Jesus was persecuted. Rather than seeing the blowback you get for what it really is ~ blowback for being a self-anointed blogger of your cult’s dogma.
I know absolutely nothing of you personally, your Christian walk or your relationship with Christ and the church.
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@FMF
Well I disagree.
I write about calling on the Lord, the experience of the Holy Spirit.
We who speak the Gospel do not always dumb down the words.
We may speak high. And we may speak beyond our experience as well.
You see it is not just our speaking that is at work.
We believe that there is a God speaking to the hearts of some people as well.
Anyway, to speak high, somewhat higher then our experience is a speaking of hope based on the teaching of the Bible. And I speak some things right at the level of my years of enjoying Christ subjectively and corporately with others.
Contemptuous expressions used by you to devalue my words don't mean that much to me. Did you say you liked the Sermon on the Mount? Did you read this part?
"Blessed are you when they reproach you and persecute you, and while speaking lies, say every evil thing against you because of Me. Rejoice and exult, for your reward is great in the heavens; for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matt. 5:11,12)
I expect you may come back and say I don't qualify for being persecuted or have a martyr complex. Whether or not that is so you certainly reproach what I am writing and me.
I think I may be doing something right.
And who knows? You may one day believe something here about the Lord Jesus.