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@divegeester

I think that you think too highly of yourself.


Yes. You don't know the half of it!
I am really proud. "Lord Jesus have mercy on this poor proud fool, me!"

But I have the blood of Jesus and He is still working Himself into me.

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Divegeester,

Is it that you really admire Jesus but cannot receive Him as Lord because that would entail that you need to be saved?

Would confessing Jesus as your Lord carry the undesirable implication that you wish to be saved from eternal damnation? That is a kind of thought - "I want Jesus. But I don't want Jesus to SAVE me. So for that reason I cannot confess Him as my Lord Jesus."

Is it that "the Lord" carries with it your need to be saved? And you hate the teaching of someone needing to be saved from eternal punishment?

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@sonship said
If I didn't think I should put it up, I would have not put it up.
What have you learned from the evaluations you asked for?

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@sonship said
@divegeester
I think that you think too highly of yourself.

Yes. You don't know the half of it!
No, I think that over the years of reading your posts and observing how you react to criticism and challenge, I am pretty sure that I have the measure of you in this respect.

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@sonship said
Divegeester,
Is it that you really admire Jesus but cannot receive Him as Lord because that would entail that you need to be saved?
Please feel free to start a thread on my personal relationship with Jesus and I will be happy to consider addressing your deflection here, in that thread.

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@divegeester

It seems each time a question is asked of you getting to an important point its "feel free" to start another thread. You don't feel free just to address the question here?

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@divegeester

No, I think that over the years of reading your posts and observing how you react to criticism and challenge, I am pretty sure that I have the measure of you in this respect.


Fine.

Maybe with you, to step over the threshold of objectively admiring Jesus to subjectively receiving Jesus as Lord has to do with not wanting to think of yourself as needing to be saved.

Some people do not want to go to the bottom rung of the ladder.
They want to at least go to the third of fourth rung of the ladder and feel that they have something to bring to God to justify themselves.

Go down to the bottom rung of the ladder. Admit what you hate, you LOATH to admit, that you need to be SAVED from the eternal judgement of God through the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ..

Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and He will exalt you in due time.

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@sonship said

Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and He will exalt you in due time.
I honestly don't get how you speak of humbling yourself before God when ultimately your vanity has you 'becoming' God.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I don't believe or teach that men become God in His Godhead.
But the son of a certain life becomes one of the offspring of that kind of life.

The son of a whale becomes whale.
The son of a gerbil becomes gerbil.
The son of a eagle becomes eagle.
The son of a human become human.

In that sense what do the sons of God become?

Jesus is God-man. And the full salvation from Jesus says that " . . .we will be like Him for we will see Him even as He is" (1 John 3:2)

The sons of God do not become God in the sense of His unique Fatherhood.
But they are "partakers of the divine nature" (2 Pet. 1:4)

That is not merely observers, spectators, admirers, or even worshippers of the divine nature. That is PARTAKERS of the divine nature.

So in spite of you jaded bias attempt to slander me, I am a normal believer that sons of God are partakers of the Father's divine nature and are to become God only in the sense of having His life dispensed into them.

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@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I don't believe or teach that men become God in His Godhead.
But the son of a certain life becomes one of the offspring of that kind of life.

The son of a whale becomes whale.
The son of a gerbil becomes gerbil.
The son of a eagle becomes eagle.
The son of a human become human.

In that sense what do the sons of God ...[text shortened]... ther's divine nature and are to become God only in the sense of having His life dispensed into them.
It is not slander to say you believe you will become God. You just find it hard to say straight out.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Quote me on it.
Then we will see who is the one having a hard time.

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Anyone else?

Grade me on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest.

1.) ought not to contend

2.) be gentle toward all

3.) apt to teach

4.) bearing with wrong

5.) in meekness

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@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Quote me on it.
Then will see who is the one having a hard time.
Oh, I'll track down a quote from Witness Lee.

Same thing.

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@sonship said
Anyone else?
Grade me on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest.

1.) ought not to contend

2.) be gentle toward all

3.) apt to teach

4.) bearing with wrong

5.) in meekness
A '9' for needy.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Quote Witness Lee on that and give the sourced reference so I can examine it.

Since you are salivating to portray me as only a tape recorder of Witness Lee, quote Witness Lee on that. But you must give us the source.

"Needle in a haystack" again ?

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