@kellyjay saidI am fully aware of what you have faith in [the "abiding life of God in us" etc. etc.]. I am also fully aware of the life-changing inspiration and strength and purpose that people can draw from their faith.
Not true; I'm telling you we can experience God in our lives, not as a mental
acknowledgment of something supernatural but as an abiding life of God in us. If all
you ever do is speculate, that is all you ever do.
@fmf saidBut you deny that it is real, not something real happening in us from the outside of us coming in, do you not?
I am fully aware of what you have faith in [the "abiding life of God in us" etc. etc.]. I am also fully aware of the life-changing inspiration and strength and purpose that people can draw from their faith.
@fmf saidYou can ignore the questions while at the same time deny the possibility. It is not until you grapple with it does it rate an answer, or worse the reality becomes a reality that is unavoidable.
I'm not sure what you are getting at. Neither of us know what the origin of the universe is. The fact that you promote your belief in a "supernatural beginning" does not alter this, nor does it place any onus on me to pretend that we DO know or to offer a hypothesis that competes with yours.
@kellyjay saidNo matter how much you or I grapple with it, neither of us knows what the origin of the universe was. You can speculate all you want about "an answer". Same goes for what you call the "reality that is unavoidable".
It is not until you grapple with it does it rate an answer, or worse the reality becomes a reality that is unavoidable.
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Maybe start a blog elsewhere, where you can post without disagreement or challenge.
Just a thought.
Maybe, I'd like to disagree with someone new for a change? You think?
Same old knee jerk reactionary critics. LIke YOU and FMF long since gotten OLD.
Don't lie on me like I don't deal with counter arguments.