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You’re so full of crap sonship.

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sins removed by the blood of Jesus

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@sonship said
sins removed by the blood of Jesus
You are attributing the deletion of your posts to Jesus?

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Did you moral compass get any kind of pointing needle on it you yet?

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You are attributing the deletion of your posts to Jesus?
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@sonship said
Did you moral compass get any kind of pointing needle on it you yet?
You almost never contribute to threads where the nature and source of morality and the basis and formation of moral compasses are discussed.

You cower away from such discussions.

You implode in such situations.

You are not a conversationalist or much of an independent thinker on issues surrounding morality.

You just cower away from such things.

So, now, an illiterate 14-word blurt framed as a question doesn't hold much water and does nothing to rectify your feebleness on the topic of morality. Sorry.

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@FMF

You almost never contribute to threads where the nature and source of morality and the basis and formation of moral compasses are discussed.


I get to the point quickly.
There is none good except one, God.



You cower away from such discussions.


There is no need to cower away when in human history we see the most striking example in Jesus Christ.

You cower away from history.



You are not a conversationalist or much of an independent thinker on issues surrounding morality.


I get to the point quickly.
All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

So we need the Savior.
I like to quickly get to the point that whatever man needs He is.


You just cower away from such things.


There is no need to cower away from One who made such an impression on human history.

Philosophy is not needed. We have an example of the right, the good, the life and the way.


So, now, an illiterate 14-word blurt framed as a question doesn't hold much water and does nothing to rectify your feebleness on the topic of morality. Sorry.


We have the Christ of history.
You some makeshift of relativism - like a ballet in outer space.

The difference is Jesus SHOWED us truth.
You've just been in the dark so long, you're afraid of the light.

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@sonship said
@FMF

You almost never contribute to threads where the nature and source of morality and the basis and formation of moral compasses are discussed.


I get to the point quickly.
There is none good except one, God.



You cower away from such discussions.


There is no need to cower away when in human history we see the ...[text shortened]... ence is Jesus SHOWED us truth.
You've just been in the dark so long, you're afraid of the light.
You almost never participate in threads where the nature and source of morality and the basis and formation of moral compasses are discussed. You just cower away from such discussions. Reiterating that you believe in Jesus doesn't alter this. You almost never talk about the moral messages of Jesus. On another thread, right now, you are saying that you find the moral issue of abortion is "boring".

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@FMF

You almost never participate in threads where the nature and source of morality and the basis and formation of moral compasses are discussed.


I think you interpret turning to God as "imploding."

I think you regard as pointing men to the living and availble Christ, the perfect man and Savior as "imploding."

I think you regard the good news of the avialiability of this Perfect Lord to be our Savior imparting actually Himself into man's being as . . . somehow "imploding, cowering"

You tell me the next time to think I am imploding.


You just cower away from such discussions.


I like to get to the point. That point is radical.
By radical I mean to get to the center of the issue, the center of the problem.

And that is that we need a change of nature. And the availability of the Perfect Man the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is that nature that we need.

I think that you regard the serious consideration of a living God, God's nature, God's work, God's words, and God's Person into the discussion as "imploding."


Reiterating that you believe in Jesus doesn't alter this. You almost never talk about the moral messages of Jesus. On another thread, right now, you are saying that you find the moral issue of abortion is "boring".


That is not true that I do not speak of the moral message - YOU regard the AVAILABILITY of a Jesus Who is alive and can be known TODAY as "imploding."

I like to get to the RADICAL point soon rather than wandering and wondering around. It is a PERSON that we need. And tht Person is available.

Because a resurrected, and living Jesus Christ Who is available to save is nowhere in your thought, this seems to you as cowering or imploding.

Turning TO the Savior is not cowering.
Turning TO the Lord is not imploding.

The most important thing we need to know about morality is that God gave a Law and we are all guilty of breaking the Law and are all condemned. But that is not the end of the story.

When I continue the story of a Pefect Lord and Savior, the available Son of God, to your athiest mind that is cowering or imploding. You regard the supernaturalness of God inter penetrating time and coming into human spirits as "cowering" or "imploding."

You point out to me the next time we talk and you think I am imploding.

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We need an example in human history of human perfection morally. We have one - Jesus of Nazareth.

We can argue that that is a mistake, a conspiracy, a lie, a fictional legend, or we can submit. He lived.

That is the first step. We should stop fighting for His non-existence and accept that Jesus lived. I don't think that is cowering or imploding morally.

We have perfection and can point to it. We know what it looks like to be a perfect man. Stop fighting it hoping the example will go away.

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@sonship said
I think you interpret turning to God as "imploding."
No. You are mistaken. I am referring to your unwillingness and inability to discuss morality.

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We should stop fighting for His non-existence and accept that Jesus lived. I don't think that is cowering or imploding morally.
Nobody posting here is "fighting for Jesus' non-existence. Why do you rely so much on strawmen and other disingenuous rhetorical gimmicks in order to pretend to converse?

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@FMF

Your whole being is "fighting" against the existence of the Lord Jesus.

You have a way of sometimes thinking Christians must have been born yesterday in terms of remembering what it was like to rationalize unbelief.

Like C.S Lewis said for anyone speaking about him "searching for God" when an atheist was like talking about a mouse "searching" for a cat.


The objective neutrality "above it all" tone doesn't impress me.

Recall Jesus saying “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. " (Matt. 12:30 NIV)

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