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Originally posted by stellspalfie
as for the crappy snooker analogy. if you are going to describe a person as perfect, you are saying everything about them is perfect, so yes they would be expected to get a 147 quite often, not always as its not always possible.
when using the word perfect its normally used in a specific way, such as 147 is the perfect snooker break or 100% is the perfect test score. when used in a generic way it normally is an inaccurate use of the word.

it wasn't crappy and highlights the matter at hand perfectly, nothing you have stated
diminishes this fact.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you term this logic? my man, nothing you have stated makes sense, all perfection is
relative to God, now suck it up and stop slavering about hypothetical scenarios. Christ
himself stated,

(Mark 10:18) . . .: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

not that Christ, was of course not good, but that all measurements and standards of
goodness and in the case of our discussion, perfection, are relative to God.

'all perfection is relative to god' this makes even less sense. when setting up scoring systems to games should we take into consideration what score god would get before we decide what the 'perfect score' would be.
or next time i say to my wife after we've had a roll around under the duvet 'that was a perfect **** should i think about how good god would be and measure her against that.
i forgot hypothetical situations to christians is like throwing a bucket of water over the wicked witch of the west.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it wasn't crappy and highlights the matter at hand perfectly, nothing you have stated
diminishes this fact.

got your fingers in your ears and your eyels closed again robbie. when faced with common sense and logic, just go into denial. no attempt to actually state why you dont think it diminishes anything. even though ive stated a view in which its important to relate things to each other rather than to god or the individual.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
'all perfection is relative to god' this makes even less sense. when setting up scoring systems to games should we take into consideration what score god would get before we decide what the 'perfect score' would be.
or next time i say to my wife after we've had a roll around under the duvet 'that was a perfect **** should i think about how good god wo ...[text shortened]... ations to christians is like throwing a bucket of water over the wicked witch of the west.

makes even less sense than what? are you feeling ok? perhaps great learning is
driving you mad? I provided a Biblical verse, it should be enough for you to be getting
on with at present, for it clearly states that perfection, standards of goodness and
morality are relative to God. Its hardly difficult to understand, is it.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
got your fingers in your ears and your eyels closed again robbie. when faced with common sense and logic, just go into denial. no attempt to actually state why you dont think it diminishes anything. even though ive stated a view in which its important to relate things to each other rather than to god or the individual.

common sense and logic dictates that you provide something other than mere opinions
proffered from a broken cup!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
because it must be relative perfection, relative to ones own abilities, not everyone is
the same.

But God made Adam and Eve and he is supposed to be perfect.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
But God made Adam and Eve and he is supposed to be perfect.

he also said adam and eve are perfect in relation to there own abilities and adam and eve are perfect in relation to god.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
But God made Adam and Eve and he is supposed to be perfect.

yes, but so what? they were perfect, relative to God, why is this so hard to understand?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
he also said adam and eve are perfect in relation to there own abilities and adam and eve are perfect in relation to god.

their ability to perform a task is relative to their abilities, why this should be so hard to
understand, i cannot say?

Originally posted by jaywill
A little Agrument and Discussion with J.P. Moreland.

Is God Perfect ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULM40ny15QM&feature=relmfu

i actually found this quite interesting mr will. im sure we disagree on what we thought about the answers, but it was good to see a christian tackling difficult subjects.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i actually found this quite interesting mr will. im sure we disagree on what we thought about the answers, but it was good to see a christian tackling difficult subjects.

Some of it I might want to think about also, if I see it the same way.

Tackling the world's tough issues is what being a disciple of Jesus entails.
IE. the problem of death itself.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
their ability to perform a task is relative to their abilities, why this should be so hard to
understand, i cannot say?

everybody's ability to perform tasks is relative to their abilities!!! if a person was operating at 100% of their potential, i guess you could say that they did task 'a' perfectly for their level of ability. as you are probably aware, we generally do not talk or think like that. when was the last time you commented or thought that somebody did something 'perfectly' in relation to themselves. as you say perfection is relative and i would say its relative to the task being done not relative to individual ability or to god. as humans we normally have an exact idea what is perfect for some situations and a rough idea in others.
i would say somebody whos committed a crime's mind is not perfect because its wrong to commit crimes. your logic would dictate that the criminals mind is perfect because thats the best decision he could have made in relation to his own mind.

Originally posted by jaywill
Some of it I might want to think about also, if I see it the same way.

Tackling the world's tough issues is what being a disciple of Jesus entails.
IE. the problem of [b]death itself.[/b]

i dont see much tackling of issues from religion in the world around me. dont you think there is a severe lack of christians on here willing to stand up and be counted on this forum. i think your pretty much the only one willing to have a serious debate.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i dont see much tackling of issues from religion in the world around me. dont you think there is a severe lack of christians on here willing to stand up and be counted on this forum. i think your pretty much the only one willing to have a serious debate.

I miss epiphinahas. But he told me that .... well, maybe what he told me was private.

Anyway, I am not the only one here attempting to answer questions and share the Gospel.

And I may not be the better at it. You have Suzzaine and Kelly Jay and I think some others. And the Jehovahs Witnesses AT LEAST are clear on God being the Creator and King.

And others whose tags I cannot recall on the fly.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i dont see much tackling of issues from religion in the world around me. dont you think there is a severe lack of christians on here willing to stand up and be counted on this forum. i think your pretty much the only one willing to have a serious debate.

debate? what is there to debate? christians are counselled not to engage in debate,

(1 Corinthians 1:18-21) . . .For the speech about the torture stake is foolishness to
those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is God’s power.  For it is
written: “I will make the wisdom of the wise [men] perish, and the intelligence of the
intellectual [men] I will shove aside.”  Where is the wise man? Where the scribe?
Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the
world foolish?  For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not
get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness of what is preached to save
those believing.