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Originally posted by @eladarDo you know why you talk about going to heaven ?
So you agree that a racist can go to heaven as is.
It is probably because you do not see the will of God as anything else but taking people to a happy place.
Superficial belief sees only -
1.) I get forgiven.
2.) I continue to live as I always did.
3.) I get taken away to a happy place where I will be forever happy.
Racism has to GO because the eternal purpose of God is to conform people to the image of Christ.
" Because those whom He foreknew He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son that He might be the Firstborn among many brothers." (Rom. 8:29)
In a real sense the only one "going to" a blessed and happy place is Jesus Christ.
That is Jesus as the Firstborn Son and those conformed to His image as His many brothers.
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Originally posted by @sonshipDo yo think you are good Christian to follow?
In a real sense the only one "going to" a blessed and happy place is Jesus Christ. That is Jesus as the Firstborn Son and those conformed to His image as His many brothers.
Who in this forum is, in your opinion, a good Christian to follow?
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Originally posted by @divegeesterDo yo think you are good Christian to follow?
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Some things can be learned from me.
Sure.
Who in this forum is, in your opinion, a good Christian to follow?
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Some things can be learned from many of the Christian posters here.
The title I gave to this thread was simply "Good Christians to Follow" and was about general principles. It was not "Good Christians to Follow on THIS Forum"
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Paul describes a mystical Body of Christ. That means that every member of the Body receives direction directly from the Head - Christ.
The fingers do not get their directions from the arm but from the head.
The arm also gets its directions from the head.
Each member of our body receives instructions from the head.
When i speak of Christians following other Christians this does not mean that they receive directions directly from other members. They may follow but each member receives its directions from Christ the Head of the Body.
I do not encourage any following that is devoid of one being also directly in touch with the Spirit of Christ.
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Originally posted by @fmfNow I am going to tell you about two Christian brothers who are no longer with us whom I have greatly benefitted from following - Watchman Nee and Witness Lee, and a host of other men and women who have perceived that these men were inheriting the promises..
[1] Is Eladar among the "many of the Christian posters here" you mentioned? [2] If so, what are the "some things" that can be learned from him?
So you need not needle me about "Well then who around here is good to follow?"
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Originally posted by @sonshipYour view of Christianity is very self serving.
As of yet I have had no edification from him.
As of yet I cannot say that I perceive any benefit of following him.
My hope is that one day I would. And I may yet.
Now I am going to tell you about two Christian brothers who are no longer with us whom I have greatly benefitted from following - Watchman Nee and Witness Lee, and a host of other men and ...[text shortened]... mises..
So you need not needle me about "Well then who around here is good to follow?"[/b]
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Originally posted by @sonshipNo he doesn't! Why do you consistently get it wrong and lean into mysticism? Honestly this propensity for using words which have different meanings to those using the bible will be your undoing as a minister, if thats what to want to be.
Paul describes a mystical Body of Christ.
Paul speaks of "the mystery of God in Christ" the mystery of the godhead etc this is NOT the same as a "mystical body of Christ".
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Originally posted by @eladarElader, first I want you to know that I erased what i said about you.
Your view of Christianity is very self serving.
Sometimes, I have second thoughts about what I write. In those times I go back aand make adjustments.
Your comment about my view of Christianity maybe I'll address in a separate post.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterThe choice is yours. But there are two extremes here.
Irrespectve of our differences elsehwere, I fundamentally don't sign up with the notion of following other Christians. The idea is erroneous at least in the way it reads.
You can be too much in following other Christians with NO personal touch with God yourself. The other extreme is to be so individualistic that you are isolated.
I seek proper balance.
A bird cannot fly with only one wing.
If in the past you were burnt by following the examples of others, maybe you're not the only one who has had unfortunate experiences this way.
The New Testament itself encourages us to know the inheritance and recognize when others are coming into it, so that we may imitate them.
I do not advocate any kind of imitating in which you are devoid of your own intimate and personal touch with the Spirit of God.
Is this clear ?
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Originally posted by @divegeesterIts a good question. (Grumble).
No he doesn't! Why do you consistently get it wrong and lean into mysticism? Honestly this propensity for using words which have different meanings to those using the bible will be your undoing as a minister, if thats what to want to be.
Paul speaks of "the mystery of God in Christ" the mystery of the godhead etc this is NOT the same as a "mystical body of Christ".
Not that I get something wrong but that I speak of a mystical like realm.
This is what is going on. There is a divine and mystical realm.
There is a dimension to human life which necessitates a spiritual realm of activity.
Without moving in this arena human life is not complete.
There are three parts to man's being.
One part interacts with the physical world.
Another part interacts with the psychological world.
And yet another part must interact with the spiritual world.
We are therefore a THREE part creation.
And for us to operate holistically (ie. on all THREE cylinders so to speak) we must discover the spiritual realm.
But often I speak of this as the divine and mystical realm. I do so somewhat in imitation because those who have greatly enhanced my experience of Christ speak of it.
For the remainder of this post just consider how Paul describes man's being as being of three parts - spirit and soul and body. And to be WHOLLY sanctified no part should be neglected in God's salvation.
" And the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Thess. 5:23)
I write a lot about that part of man called the human spirit.
That is what you perceive as much talk about "mysticism."
Once you discover your human spirit, you will be revolutionized and the Christian life will be a whole new realm of more frequent contact with Christ.