Happy or truth

@kellyjay said
Are we on a happiness quest or a truth quest?
Would we want to know the truth if it wasn't what we think it should be?
If I'm content the way I am, and truth would be upsetting, would I prefer being ignorant?
Thoughts

I think I would want to know the truth, but it depends what the truth is of course.

@mercury said
I think I would want to know the truth, but it depends what the truth is of course.

🙂 Is that wanting the truth if you are hedging your bets depending on what it is?

@kellyjay said
Is that wanting the truth if you are hedging your bets depending on what it is?

Can you cite an example - in your view - of a "truth" [or rejecting it] that can be described as relating to "hedging your bets"?

@fmf said
Can you cite an example - in your view - of a "truth" [or rejecting it] that can be described as relating to "hedging your bets"?

If I like it, I'll accept it.

@kellyjay said
If I like it, I'll accept it.

Some examples of "it"?

@kellyjay said
Nothing in the OP was Christianity, the Bible, or my beliefs about anything.

Could you then give me an example of what you think the OP is referring to if it is not any of these in your post I’m replying to?

@divegeester said
Could you then give me an example of what you think the OP is referring to if it is not any of these in your post I’m replying to?

It refers to any truth and any means that makes one happy.

@fmf said
Some examples of "it"?

It refers to any truth and any means that makes one happy.

@kellyjay said
It refers to any truth and any means that makes one happy.

Can you give an example of a "truth" that you think is antithetical to happiness?

@kellyjay said
It refers to any truth and any means that makes one happy.

OK let’s take the movie The Matrix then.

I would definitely take the BLUE PILL (ignorance) if give the choice of knowing what the actual reality was if I took the RED PILL.

In the movie the character Neo was I feel, misled by his mentor Morpheus who said to him “remember Neo all I’m offering is the truth” but what that “truth” was he kept secret from Neo.

Cypher on the other hand was honest and told Neo later on that he wished he’d taken the BLUE PILL had he known then what he’d new later.

Cypher famously said “ignorance is bliss”

@divegeester said
OK let’s take the movie The Matrix then.

I would definitely take the BLUE PILL (ignorance) if give the choice of knowing what the actual reality was if I took the RED PILL.

In the movie the character Neo was I feel, misled by his mentor Morpheus who said to him “remember Neo all I’m offering is the truth” but what that “truth” was he kept secret from Neo.

Cyphe ...[text shortened]... n the BLUE PILL had he known then what he’d new later.

Cypher famously said “ignorance is bliss”

If you want to talk about a specific, start your thread; why hijack one that wasn't written to go into specifics?

@fmf said
Can you give an example of a "truth" that you think is antithetical to happiness?

If you want to talk about a specific, start your thread; why hijack one that wasn't written to go into specifics?

@kellyjay said
If you want to talk about a specific, start your thread; why hijack one that wasn't written to go into specifics?

Talking about "truths" being antithetical to "happiness" without specifics is borderline meaningless. If I started a thread like this and then ruled out "specifics", Suzianne would arrive and accuse me of pseudo-intellectual masturbation.

@fmf said
Talking about "truths" being antithetical to "happiness" without specifics is borderline meaningless. If I started a thread like this and then ruled out "specifics", Suzianne would arrive and accuse me of pseudo-intellectual masturbation.

I've acknowledged that truth and happiness are not necessarily at odds. If you want to go into specifics, start another thread.

@kellyjay said
I've acknowledged that truth and happiness are not necessarily at odds. If you want to go into specifics, start another thread.

So, sometimes truth and happiness are not necessarily at odds, and sometimes they are. How does one delve a little deeper [than this banal truism] without going into specifics?