03 Jan 22
@divegeester saidIf you are telling others the danger of Hell isn't real, that makes you someone who is all about making the scriptures fit your views on how the judgment is going to go and not take scripture for what it clearly says. Judgment starts in the house of the Lord, and if the righteous is scarcely saved, where will the sinners end up? God does not play around with evil if on judgment day when everything that was done, every word spoken, even those times we didn't act when we should have shown us to be anything other than with the righteousness of Jesus Christ, all sins will be accounted for.
Could you give an example of how “a weak Christian” might ignore certain “warnings in scripture” and what the consequences might be?
Thanks.
1 Peter 4:18
And "If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?"
Matthew 25:30
And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
Luke 13:28
In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves cast out.
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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03 Jan 22
@pb1022 saidYou strike me as someone who just woke up in a cryochamber and who still believes that mocking Christianity and its believers in this way still makes sense 10 or 20 years later.
You don’t think there are different degrees of belief?
“And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.
And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.
Then touched he their eyes, saying, A ...[text shortened]... lieved, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.”
(Matthew 8:13)
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03 Jan 22
@kevin-eleven saidI don’t mock anyone and I certainly don’t bear false witness against them as you’re doing here.
You strike me as someone who just woke up in a cryochamber and who still believes that mocking Christianity and its believers in this way still makes sense 10 or 20 years later.
But I guess insulting people while you’re anonymous and hiding in the safety of your home is quite easy for you.
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@pb1022 saidSorry if you feel insulted. Accusations are a dime a dozen these days, same as ever.
I don’t mock anyone and I certainly don’t bear false witness against them as you’re doing here.
But I guess insulting people while you’re anonymous and hiding in the safety of your home is quite easy for you.
Relax into Christ and don't worry about what other people do -- that's my advice.
In a recent interview, Denzel Washington said this:
"Fear is contaminated faith."
I might disagree with you about some things, to whatever extent I might actually exist and have sufficient agency to disagree with anyone about anything, but I am no threat to you, or so I tell myself.
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03 Jan 22
@kevin-eleven saidApparently mocking and bearing false witness against someone is no big deal to you.
Sorry if you feel insulted. Accusations are a dime a dozen these days, same as ever.
Relax into Christ and don't worry about what other people do -- that's my advice.
In a recent interview, Denzel Washington said this:
"Fear is contaminated faith."
I might disagree with you about some things, to whatever extent I might actually exist and have sufficient agency to disagree with anyone about anything, but I am no threat to you, or so I tell myself.
Says a lot about your values.
03 Jan 22
@pb1022 saidYes. In 2018, for example, in the run-up to you being banned from the site, I gave you some personal information about my loss of faith, and you spammed the forum for weeks with mocking comments about it and called me a "pathological liar" repeatedly and, for some odd reason, posted "You're just pissing in the pool!" and similar taunts over and over and over again, like hundreds and hundreds of times. You should take that personal information I gave you back then, and make of it what you will.
Have you written about why you abandoned your faith in the past?
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03 Jan 22
@fmf saidI don’t recall you saying why.
Yes. In 2018, for example, in the run-up to you being banned from the site, I gave you some personal information about my loss of faith, and you spammed the forum for weeks with mocking comments about it and called me a "pathological liar" repeatedly and, for some odd reason, posted "You're just pissing in the pool!" and similar taunts over and over and over again, like hundreds ...[text shortened]... times. You should take that personal information I gave you back then, and make of it what you will.
And the rest of your post, like your previous accusation against me, is simply false.
I’m beginning to realize why, in the past, you had to apologize to this community *and* to this website’s owner for your behavior in here.
And it sadly seems like you’re reverting to it.
@pb1022 saidYou think I am "reverting" to behaviour for which I will at some point have to apologize to "this community"?
I’m beginning to realize why, in the past, you had to apologize to this community *and* to this website’s owner for your behavior in here.And it sadly seems like you’re reverting to it.
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@kellyjay saidWhat the scripture “clearly says” is clearly not clear KellyJay, or we wouldn’t be debating it.
If you are telling others the danger of Hell isn't real, that makes you someone who is all about making the scriptures fit your views on how the judgment is going to go and not take scripture for what it clearly says.
If mankind, Christians even, were in perpetual peril of being tortured for eternity by the very God who loved them so much he came and died for them, then you would think he would have taken the time to spell it out far more clearly than to have the likes of you chuck a few isolated verses together in the vain hope of convincing someone like me on chess site of that peril.
Don’t you think?
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@divegeester saidPerhaps because you are unwilling to shut your yap and abide within the Christ you so clearly falsely profess to be your guide and savior?
What the scripture “clearly says” is clearly not clear KellyJay, or we wouldn’t be debating it.
In short, you are still looking in the wrong direction, and it shows.
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04 Jan 22
@kevin-eleven saidNow you’re getting upset.
Perhaps because you are unwilling to shut your yap and abide within the Christ you so clearly falsely profess to be your guide and savior?
In short, you are still looking in the wrong direction.
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04 Jan 22
@divegeester saidNo, I've just eaten a boiled egg. Thank goodness it wasn't one of yours.
Now you’re getting upset.
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04 Jan 22
@kevin-eleven saidGo to bed.
No, I've just eaten a boiled egg. Thank goodness it wasn't one of yours.