Mary Mother of God?

Originally posted by divegeester
What you said was: [b]"Jesus is a mighty God" and "Jehovah is Almighty God".

You also said: "it is the Bible that states there are two Gods not me [yourself]"

So, are there 2 Gods. Yes or No?[/b]

Did you not read the scriptures that state what I said? Did you miss them? Here they are again.....

Isaiah 9:6 about Jesus:
Good News Translation (GNT)


6 A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called,
Wonderful Counselor
Mighty God,
Eternal Father,
Prince of Peace.




Revelation 16:14 about Jehovah.
Good News Translation (GNT)

14 They are the spirits of demons that perform miracles. These three spirits go out to all the kings of the world, to bring them together for the battle on the great Day of Almighty God.

Originally posted by galveston75
Did you not read the scriptures that state what I said? Did you miss them? Here they are again.....

Isaiah 9:6 about Jesus:
Good News Translation (GNT)


6 A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called,
Wonderful Counselor
Mighty God,
Eternal Father,
Prince of Peace.




Revelation 1 ...[text shortened]... the kings of the world, to bring them together for the battle on the great Day of Almighty God.

You said that "the Bible says there are two Gods". Do you agree with what you think the Bible is saying?

Originally posted by divegeester
You said that "the Bible says there are two Gods". Do you agree with what you think the Bible is saying?

Obviously I do agree with the Bible. What makes you think I don't? Do you agree with what these two scriptures are saying?

Originally posted by galveston75
Obviously I do agree with the Bible. What makes you think I don't? Do you agree with what these two scriptures are saying?

I'm still totally stunned that you believe there are two Gods. After all the hassle you give the trinitarians too.

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm still totally stunned that you believe there are two Gods. After all the hassle you give the trinitarians too.

Does your Bible anywhere say that Jesus is a god?

Originally posted by galveston75
Does your Bible anywhere say that Jesus is a god?

You pointed out it in this thread that "he is a Mighty God".

Is this going somewhere...?

Originally posted by divegeester
You pointed out it in this thread that "he is a Mighty God".

Is this going somewhere...?

So is Jesus a god or not?

Originally posted by galveston75
So is Jesus a god or not?

As I just pointed out - and several times previously, you have already said that he is.

Oh dear, can you play your trump card now so we can move on.

Originally posted by divegeester
As I just pointed out - and several times previously, you have already said that he is.

Oh dear, can you play your trump card now so we can move on.

I asked you the question......is he called a god or not in your bible?

Originally posted by galveston75
I asked you the question......is he called a god or not in your bible?

What would be interesting to me would be for you to state unequivocally whether you think that Jesus is a "Mighty God". The two Jehovah's Witnesses I knew in Japan were at pains to say that this was not so; it came up almost every time we talked. I'd be interested to hear if this is a doctrinal issue that is left to each individual's interpretation and conscience in your group.

Originally posted by FMF
What would be interesting to me would be for you to state unequivocally whether you think that Jesus is a "Mighty God". The two Jehovah's Witnesses I knew in Japan were at pains to say that this was not so; it came up almost every time we talked. I'd be interested to hear if this is a doctrinal issue that is left to each individual's interpretation and conscience in your group.

Isaiah 9:6 about (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Jesus ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))):
Good News Translation (GNT)


6 A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called,
Wonderful Counselor
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( MightyGod, )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Eternal Father,
Prince of Peace.

What about this scripture do you not get?????????????????

Originally posted by galveston75
I asked you the question......is he called a god or not in your bible?

The Bible translations I use call Jesus son of man, Son of God, the expressed image of God in the flesh, the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form, and even our great God and Savior and Lord. But none of them say Jesus is a god. I know the translators of the NWT produced by the Watchtower claim that John 1:1 should be translated "a god" because of the absence of a definite article. However, such a translation is rejected by the majority of scholars of the Greek text. And such a translation contradicts other portions of the Holy Bible.

Originally posted by galveston75
Isaiah 9:6 about (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Jesus ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))):
Good News Translation (GNT)


6 A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called,
Wonderful Counselor
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( MightyGod, )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Eternal Father,
Prince of Peace.

What about this scripture do you not get?????????????????

So I am to take it that it is your belief that there are two Gods, and that Jesus is one of those Gods. I think you would have had a very lively disagreement with the Japanese JWs that I knew. They were adamantly opposed to what you are claiming here.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The Bible translations I use call Jesus son of man, Son of God, the expressed image of God in the flesh, the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form, and even our great God and Savior and Lord. But none of them say Jesus is a god. I know the translators of the NWT produced by the Watchtower claim that John 1:1 should be translated "a god" because of the a ...[text shortened]... olars of the Greek text. And such a translation contradicts other portions of the Holy Bible.

The Bible I just quoted from does as well as these:

Isaiah 9:6
King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Isaiah 9:6
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

6 For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.

In fact all that I look at do.

But lets make this as clear as one possibly can. Jesus is referred to as A god....but NOT Almighty God, ever.
And this Mighty God title he has been given never is one that we ever worship. Jesus himself said it is only his Father, Jehovah that is to be worshipped.
And no where does it ever say we are to worship the holy Spirit.
According to the Trinity Dogma, all are equl, all knowing, all powerful, etc, etc.
So a trinitarian should be worshipping them all if they are truly one in the same and all equal. No where in the Bible are we told to ever worship all three.
Again Jesus clearly said we are not to worship him BUT ONLY his Father.

So how do you pray? Who exactly do you pray to? One of them? Two of them or all three?
Another trinity mystery..............

Originally posted by FMF
So I am to take it that it is your belief that there are two Gods, and that Jesus is one of those Gods. I think you would have had a very lively disagreement with the Japanese JWs that I knew. They were adamantly opposed to what you are claiming here.

So you say..... The reason you don't get it is because your not listening. A continuing problem I seem to have with you. Oh well....