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@kellyjay said
So you could
move from someone who professed love for Christ to an anti-Christ with nothing
but thought.
How am I an "anti-Christ", KellyJay? I am well aware, having been a Christian myself, that that is the just about the evilest and most depraved insult you can hurl at me. It would be less ghastly if you were calling me a paedophile or a rapist. "An anti-Christ"? What on Earth is the matter with you?

Sometimes your faith - which is, of course, "nothing but thought" too, KellyJay - seems little more than a bitter grab bag of intellectually disingenuous gimmicks and sanctimonious misanthropy.

Are you trying to [1] convert me or [2] convert others here through what you say or [3] are you just engaged in - what Suzianne calls - [self-sanctified] masturbation?

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Rajk999: Does "fall away" mean neglect to, or stop, obeying Jesus's commandments? What say you divegeester?


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@fmf said
Your faith is "all between your ears" too, KellyJay.

IF God were real, IF God were real, IF God were real, IF God were real, IF God were real, IF God were real... exactly: IF.
God is real; the reality of God gives reality its being. Had you known that there
would be no if, you flipped flopped on the reality of God. Since the truth is
wrapped up in God, He doesn't change; we do. He does not disappear due to
our circumstances. The "if God" was all about your flipping between opinions, not
the reality of God, which you deny. God not being real to you now means He
never was.

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@fmf said
You are being facetious, though, KellyJay. And disingenuous. And oddly defensive.
That too is all between your ears.

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@fmf said
Your faith does not create "truth". We can only speculate about "the truth" in these matters. Whatever "the truth" might be, it is not affected by your faith or by my loss of faith. That leaves us both firmly in the realm of subjectivity and personal opinion.
We can know the truth and be set free by it, and your denial is simply a truth
statement about the truth, which you are admitting is all you can do.

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@fmf said
How am I an "anti-Christ", KellyJay? I am well aware, having been a Christian myself, that that is the just about the evilest and most depraved insult you can hurl at me. It would be less ghastly if you were calling me a paedophile or a rapist. "An anti-Christ"? What on Earth is the matter with you?

Sometimes your faith - which is, of course, "nothing but thought" too, KellyJ ...[text shortened]... what you say or [3] are you just engaged in - what Suzianne calls - [self-sanctified] masturbation?
It is simply those that oppose the reality of Jesus Christ, and you now meet that
definition, do you not, by the way, you define yourself?

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To lose something, one must have it; first. For one to be a Christian requires Jesus
Christ in your life. Deny God is real now, says that had to also be true for his whole
life; all the experiences with God in the past couldn't be true; they are all denied as
never being real. Many are leaving a belief system, a godless Christianity, for the
reality they belong to a godless one without the pretense; they are showing their
true colors. We are either conforming to being like Christ with Christ in this life
by the work of God in us through God sanctifying us, or we are moving away from
Him; an absolute denial of God is where some go.

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@kellyjay said
It is simply those that oppose the reality of Jesus Christ, and you now meet that
definition, do you not, by the way, you define yourself?
I don't "oppose the reality of Jesus Christ", you silly clot.

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@kellyjay said
We can know the truth and be set free by it, and your denial is simply a truth
statement about the truth, which you are admitting is all you can do.
I am well aware of the tenets of your faith and all the personal opinions and fantastical claims that it consists of, KellyJay.

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@kellyjay said
That too is all between your ears.
All we are doing is sharing what each of us has "between our ears".

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@fmf said
I don't "oppose the reality of Jesus Christ", you silly clot.
You deny Him yes or no as the Word of God made flesh?

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@kellyjay said
You deny Him yes or no as the Word of God made flesh?
It is daft to claim I "oppose the reality of Jesus Christ".

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