Meta-narrative

@kellyjay said
The reality of it is all I care about, between the two of us only one of us seems to have experienced Him. The other has only ever had thoughts about Him.

I think the way I firmly believed I had "experienced Him" is, psychologically speaking, the same as how you believe you are "experiencing Him".

@kellyjay said
The reality of it is all I care about, between the two of us only one of us seems to have experienced Him. The other has only ever had thoughts about Him.

How do you know this?

@divegeester said
How do you know this?

He denies God is real; difficult to meet someone you don't acknowledge
as part of reality, let alone the one responsible for reality.

@fmf said
I think the way I firmly believed I had "experienced Him" is, psychologically speaking, the same as how you believe you are "experiencing Him".

Psychologically speaking, people can think they are ducks and all other nonsense;
the reality is, did you know Him? You don't acknowledge He is part of reality; you
even question all reality where He is possible, and you want to say you met him in
a manner of speaking?

@kellyjay said
He denies God is real; difficult to meet someone you don't acknowledge
as part of reality, let alone the one responsible for reality.

FMF has, as you admit, “fallen away”.

He was once a committed Christian, your pretending he wasn’t so that you can keep up this petty vindictive front is revealing of your smallness.

@kellyjay said
Psychologically speaking, people can think they are ducks and all other nonsense;
the reality is, did you know Him? You don't acknowledge He is part of reality; you
even question all reality where He is possible, and you want to say you met him in
a manner of speaking?

How can anyone here know that you are a Christian?

@divegeester said
FMF has, as you admit, “fallen away”.

He was once a committed Christian, your pretending he wasn’t so that you can keep up this petty vindictive front is revealing of your smallness.

Fall away from what, believing there is a God, so what, there are a lot of people
who believe in God that does not mean God is a reality in their lives, only they
have positive thoughts about Him or some other ways of beholding Him.

@divegeester said
How can anyone here know that you are a Christian?

Being a Christian isn't by a popularity poll; it is not a bunch of checkboxes that say
I do this or that; it is Christ in us. If that isn't real, who cares what others think?

@kellyjay said
Fall away from what, believing there is a God, so what, there are a lot of people
who believe in God that does not mean God is a reality in their lives, only they
have positive thoughts about Him or some other ways of beholding Him.

“Fall away” is the phrase you used in another thread where you were obsessed with denying FMF his Christian relationship with god. So why ask me what it means?

@kellyjay said
Being a Christian isn't by a popularity poll; it is not a bunch of checkboxes that say
I do this or that; it is Christ in us. If that isn't real, who cares what others think?

How can anyone here know you are a Christian?

@divegeester said
FMF has, as you admit, “fallen away”.

He was once a committed Christian, your pretending he wasn’t so that you can keep up this petty vindictive front is revealing of your smallness.

If he claimed he was once an eagle, would you believe him, or because you
know what an eagle is, know that isn't possible? Without Christ in your life,
you will hear the words on judgment day, "depart from me; I never knew you."
from Jesus! That might be some of the words you ignore from scripture, but
they are there for a reason.

@kellyjay said
If he claimed he was once an eagle, would you believe him, or because you
know what an eagle is, know that isn't possible? Without Christ in your life,
you will hear the words on judgment day, "depart from me; I never knew you."
from Jesus! That might be some of the words you ignore from scripture, but
they are there for a reason.

You are in no place to deny a person their Christian relationship with Jesus Christ, wether it be past or present.

You should be ashamed of your smallness.

@divegeester said
How can anyone here know you are a Christian?

You claim to be a Christian; what do you think? I just told you what has to be
real for it to be true, and there isn't anything you can do to check it out one
way or another, aside from looking at someone's life, are they living in sin, are they
always involved in strife, always mad, always unforgiving, accusatory, all of
the works of the flesh and not the Spirit?

@kellyjay said
You claim to be a Christian; what do you think? I just told you what has to be
real for it to be true, and there isn't anything you can do to check it out one
way or another, aside from looking at someone's life, are they living in sin, are they
always involved in strife, always mad, always unforgiving, accusatory, all of
the works of the flesh and not the Spirit?

You’re in this forum hounding someone who Christ died for and whom has (to use your term) “fallen away”.

You should be ashamed of your smallness.

@divegeester said
You are in no place to deny a person their Christian relationship with Jesus Christ, wether it be past or present.

You should be ashamed of your smallness.

I'm taking him at his word; if he said he fell away without denying God, that would
be a different conversation.