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@kellyjay said
I'm taking him at his word; if he said he fell away without denying God, that would
be a different conversation.
How does a person “fall away” without denying god?
Who are you to declare what is and what isn’t “falling away”?

Your bitterness and judgment toward FMF is something you should be ashamed of.

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@divegeester said
How does a person “fall away” without denying god?
Who are you to declare what is and what isn’t “falling away”?

Your bitterness and judgment toward FMF is something you should be ashamed of.
You really should study the whole Bible.

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@kellyjay said
You really should study the whole Bible.
So should you.

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@kellyjay said
Psychologically speaking, people can think they are ducks and all other nonsense;
the reality is, did you know Him?
Psychologically speaking, people can think that a God figure is real and that they can "know" him. I did. You do

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@divegeester said
How does a person “fall away” without denying god?
Who are you to declare what is and what isn’t “falling away”?

Your bitterness and judgment toward FMF is something you should be ashamed of.
Now you may not grasp that you don't have to be disagreeable to disagree with
someone every time someone doesn't affirm your beliefs. There is nothing personal
about this with him from me. Disagreements with you seem to have many names-
callings involved with almost all you talk to; I'm simply staying on point, nothing
more.

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@kellyjay said
If he claimed he was once an eagle, would you believe him, or because you
know what an eagle is, know that isn't possible?
What does this analogy mean? You think being a Christian is like being a non-human, like an eagle?

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@kellyjay said
Now you may not grasp that you don't have to be disagreeable to disagree with
someone every time someone doesn't affirm your beliefs. There is nothing personal
about this with him from me. Disagreements with you seem to have many names-
callings involved with almost all you talk to; I'm simply staying on point, nothing
more.
Playing the victim card is not an answer to the question.

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@fmf said
What does this analogy mean? You think being a Christian is like being a non-human, like an eagle?
Claiming to be something you were not, does not make you something you were not.

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@fmf said
Playing the victim card is not an answer to the question.
What in the world are you talking about?

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@kellyjay said
Claiming to be something you were not, does not make you something you were not.
But I am not claiming I was something I was not. Haven't you been reading my posts?

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@kellyjay said
What in the world are you talking about?
I am talking about your evasiveness.

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@fmf said
But I am not claiming I was something I was not. Haven't you been reading my posts?
Yes, psychology speaking, you knew a god, and later you now deny that it was real
because you no longer believe in that god. So for you, it was like the Easter bunny
or Santa Claus, but in reality, not so much. Do you disagree with me?

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I am talking about your evasiveness.
I've been consistent; what is it you think I'm being evasive about?

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@kellyjay said
Yes, psychology speaking, you knew a god, and later you now deny that it was real
because you no longer believe in that god. So for you, it was like the Easter bunny
or Santa Claus, but in reality, not so much.
for you God was like the Easter bunny or Santa Claus

No, He was not. Speak for yourself, KellyJay.

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@kellyjay said
Do you disagree with me?
You are claiming that I was never a Christian, that my faith was never real to me, you are claiming that it was just me "going through the motions", that it was "merely a set of rules", that it was only a "fuzzy feeling", that it was only about "sitting on a pew in church", that God was like an "Easter bunny" to me, that my faith did not impact my life, and lest we forget, it's only a few weeks ago that you were accusing me of lying about my Christian past, etc, etc.

And you have studiously ~ and disingenuously ~ ignored or pretended not to have read anything I have said in my efforts to describe how profound my faith was.

You have used every little dishonest strawman you can think of.

Of course, I disagree with you.

You are being very strange, KellyJay. Do you perceive my loss of faith as some kind of threat to you?

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