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@kellyjay said
Oh, yes, you are so shrewder; your posts are just the cream of the crop; everyone
should stop what they are doing because you have an opinion! Your pomp and
arrogance are astounding sometimes! Seriously your retort is you are so much
better than I am!

Like I said, there really is no point in trying to belittle me, KellyJay.

@fmf said
OK, I see. For someone's benefit, you have placed a for-Christian-consumption label on me: "an Anti-Christ". [Is this labelling for your benefit? Is it for the benefit of people reading? Is it somehow for my benefit? Who knows?] So, anyway, it is what it is. Now then, what are the practical implications for the reality in which my family and I live? And what should I do now?

We are talking about labels that fit and those that we apply to ourselves and each
other. You have called me and my beliefs names and now get bent out of shape
the same thing was done to you?

You deny God by your claims of being an Atheist, your rejection of your so
called former beliefs.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:2-4
English Standard Version
By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

Since you are big on labels calling yourself an ex-Christian, and now an Agonistic
Atheist. From you, my beliefs are called all manner of names; why be upset when
what you do and are doing also has a label to go along with it? Maybe you
should start another thread telling everyone how smart you are and how you
view things are so much more superior to others, or at least me!

@fmf said
Like I said, there really is no point in trying to belittle me, KellyJay.

I'm not belittling you!

@fmf said
Of course, you are "in error". You are an unthinking ideologue regurgitating doctrine that has you believing that you have undergone some sort of supernatural transformation because of stuff "between your ears", as you yourself put it.

I do not have a "lack of experience with God in [my] past". I have had a so-called "experience with God" - it lasted decades - that is more or less the same as yours although the effects on our respective lives may differ.

So you say!

@fmf said
Thanks for laying the inevitable Victim Card on the table. There really is no point in trying to belittle me, KellyJay.

You start posts about something I have said to you specifically calling me out by
name and I'm the one playing the victim card, double standard must be your
middle name.

@kellyjay said
You have called me and my beliefs names and now get bent out of shape
the same thing was done to you?

When did I call your beliefs "names"?

@kellyjay said
I'm not belittling you!

Don't waste your time trying to do so.

@kellyjay said
We are talking about labels that fit and those that we apply to ourselves and each
other.

For whose consumption is your quintessentially Christian label ["Anti-Christ"]? I am not a Christian. Who is it you want to see you using the label?

@kellyjay said
You start posts about something I have said to you specifically calling me out by
name and I'm the one playing the victim card, double standard must be your
middle name.

When I start a thread because something you have said is interesting and worth discussing, that is not me playing a victim card. Boy oh boy, where did THAT idea come from?

@kellyjay said
So you say!

We are just sharing our opinions, KellyJay.

@fmf said
We are just sharing our opinions, KellyJay.

Opinions about truth, the fact we have opinions doesn't mean what we are saying
is either true or not there; we require reasoning, not name-calling or put-downs.

@fmf said
When I start a thread because something you have said is interesting and worth discussing, that is not me playing a victim card. Boy oh boy, where did THAT idea come from?

It comes from how you treat others and how you want to be treated.

@kellyjay said
Opinions about truth, the fact we have opinions doesn't mean what we are saying
is either true or not there; we require reasoning, not name-calling or put-downs.

I have been reasoning with you and engaging you for 26 pages. If any belittling is going on, then it is you who is belittling yourself.

@fmf said
For whose consumption is your quintessentially Christian label ["Anti-Christ"]? I am not a Christian. Who is it you want to see you using the label?

I was speaking to you.

@kellyjay said
It comes from how you treat others and how you want to be treated.

Don't be so disingenuous, KellyJay. When I start a thread because I find something you have said to be interesting and worth discussing, it is not victim-card-playing on my part. If you start a thread with something I have said - that you find to be worth talking about - then I welcome it.