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07 Dec 09
Originally posted by BadwaterRemember the dove Noah sent out and it came back with an olive leaf in it's bill? There was plenty of plant life by the time the ark opened up...
No.
The premises and numbers listed are flawed. They also do not take into account the devastation to plant life, and thus food, that would be required for the vast majority of animals then and today. They do not take into account the devastation to insects, and it would be impossible to account for 1) Having all insects on the ark, and 2) An insect exte ...[text shortened]... ally happened is missing something else entirely that the ancient Jews are spiritually saying.
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07 Dec 09
Originally posted by galveston75As I say, the premise is flawed. There is no accounting of the mass plant and insect extinction that would have happened were the entire earth to be covered in water for 40 days. It simply did not happen.
Remember the dove Noah sent out and it came back with an olive leaf in it's bill? There was plenty of plant life by the time the ark opened up...
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by galveston75yeah, why is that logical? how many years did noah and his family stay in the arc after the rain stopped? from where did the trees came?
Remember the dove Noah sent out and it came back with an olive leaf in it's bill? There was plenty of plant life by the time the ark opened up...
07 Dec 09
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Originally posted by galveston75the problem for those who advocate a non literal interpretation, under the false guise of some spiritual lesson, is, that in denying the teaching of Jesus, they are denying the divine element, and look how they are floundering on a pretence of knowledge and on the basis of what? mere opinion and interpretations of higher critics. If only they would refer to the scriptures, you would think that these things would become apparent. Christians arguing against and denying the teaching of Christ, well well..........
Remember the dove Noah sent out and it came back with an olive leaf in it's bill? There was plenty of plant life by the time the ark opened up...
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by josephwFirst things first, if your going to quote text from another source, put the reference in please.
Quoted from another source.
Was the ark big enough to hold the number of animals required?
The total available floor space on the ark would have been over 100,000 square feet, which would be more floor space than in 20 standard-sized basketball courts.
Assuming an 18-inch cubit [45.72 centimeters], Noah's Ark would have had a cubic volume equal t ...[text shortened]... food and baggage plus Noah's family of eight people. [b]The Ark had plenty of space.[/b]
I haven't got time to go through the whole post just yet, but it doesn't fill me with much confidence when the maths in the very first sentence is completely wrong. If you can't get that correct, it doesn't boad well for the rest of 'analysis'.
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by BadwaterYour head is full of false information you wouldn't know the truth if it ran you over like a steam roller.
No.
The premises and numbers listed are flawed. They also do not take into account the devastation to plant life, and thus food, that would be required for the vast majority of animals then and today. They do not take into account the devastation to insects, and it would be impossible to account for 1) Having all insects on the ark, and 2) An insect exte ...[text shortened]... ally happened is missing something else entirely that the ancient Jews are spiritually saying.
Do you realise you are contradicting God?
You may be able to convince yourself, but you will never convince me that you know enough of everything to determine that there wasn't a world wide flood.
If God can create the universe with His Word He is more than able to put Noah on an Ark with the animals and flood the world with water.
You and those like you think too small.
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by Proper Knobi bet he will not look over my link 😀
First things first, if your going to quote text from another source, put the reference in please.
I haven't got time to go through the whole post just yet, but it doesn't fill me with much confidence when the maths in the very first sentence is completely wrong. If you can't get that correct, it doesn't boad well for the rest of 'analysis'.
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by josephwaha, now we are getting to the creamy caramel center of the problem. (mmm cake).
Your head is full of false information you wouldn't know the truth if it ran you over like a steam roller.
Do you realise you are contradicting God?
You may be able to convince yourself, but you will never convince me that you know enough of everything to determine that there wasn't a world wide flood.
If God can create the universe with His Word He ...[text shortened]... rk with the animals and flood the world with water.
You and those like you think too small.
god did it. god is mighty. YES he can! well then why are you trying to prove it? why use science to prove a miracle?
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by Proper Knob75 times 450 times 3 = 101,250
First things first, if your going to quote text from another source, put the reference in please.
I haven't got time to go through the whole post just yet, but it doesn't fill me with much confidence when the maths in the very first sentence is completely wrong. If you can't get that correct, it doesn't boad well for the rest of 'analysis'.
If you can't read and comprehend the first sentence how are you going to understand the rest of the post.
I didn't think it was necessary to provide the reference. I still don't.
07 Dec 09
why are you all doing here? don't you realize you are at a disadvantage? those that think must question everything they say. must support their ideas. must be receptive to better ideas. must research their posts.
do you see them(the "others"😉 doing this? not only that but they really believe god will send them to a fiery pit if they question the flood. they really think that in order to be saved they must never question what they are told by the priests.
how can you debate in such a manner? who gains from all of this? one party tries to teach the other: they give out information that falls on deaf ears and receive nothing in return. how is that fair or productive?
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by ZahlanziI'm not using science. But apparently reason doesn't work either.
aha, now we are getting to the creamy caramel center of the problem. (mmm cake).
god did it. god is mighty. YES he can! well then why are you trying to prove it? why use science to prove a miracle?
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by josephwThe Ark was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits tall. If 1 cubit is 45.72cm.
Quoted from another source.
Was the ark big enough to hold the number of animals required?
The total available floor space on the ark would have been over 100,000 square feet, which would be more floor space than in 20 standard-sized basketball courts.
Assuming an 18-inch cubit [45.72 centimeters], Noah's Ark would have had a cubic volume equal t ...[text shortened]... food and baggage plus Noah's family of eight people. [b]The Ark had plenty of space.[/b]
I make the dimensions
137.16m long
22.86m wide
13.716m tall
Giving the vessel a maximum volume of 43,006m3.
Not quite sure how you managed to 462,686.4m3? You've made it 10 times bigger?!
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou don't know anything we don't know, and don't be so narrow minded as to think Christians aren't capable of doing research just like anyone else.
why are you all doing here? don't you realize you are at a disadvantage? those that think must question everything they say. must support their ideas. must be receptive to better ideas. must research their posts.
do you see them(the "others"😉 doing this? not only that but they really believe god will send them to a fiery pit if they question the flood. ...[text shortened]... mation that falls on deaf ears and receive nothing in return. how is that fair or productive?
The only difference between the believer and the non-believer is salvation and a willingness to trust and believe God.
Which of course gives us the greater advantage. lol
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by Proper KnobIt had 3 floors.
The Ark was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits tall. If 1 cubit is 45.72cm.
I make the dimensions
137.16m long
22.86m wide
13.716m tall
Giving the vessel a maximum volume of 43,006m3.
Not quite sure how you managed to 462,686.4m3? You've made it 10 times bigger?!