Noah's Ark?

Originally posted by Badwater
It sounds like mathematics, logic, basic science, biology, and logic will be tossed aside. You should do very well in that case.

It would be appreciated if you'd get off the insult bus too if you'd like the answers from us to be civil.

Originally posted by galveston75
It would be appreciated if you'd get off the insult bus too if you'd like the answers from us to be civil.

The only insult is to my intelligence. The Noah's ark story cannot possibly be literally true. To suggest otherwise is the insult.

Originally posted by galveston75
It would be appreciated if you'd get off the insult bus too if you'd like the answers from us to be civil.

Galvo, i'm still waiting for your evidence as to why there is no evidence for a flood in ice core samples.

If it is the case you believe all ice caps, sheets and glaciers are only 5,000yrs old, i'm still waitng on the evidence which proves such a theory.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Galvo, i'm still waiting for your evidence as to why there is no evidence for a flood in ice core samples.

If it is the case you believe all ice caps, sheets and glaciers are only 5,000yrs old, i'm still waitng on the evidence which proves such a theory.

I've got some things working on that...

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Galvo, i'm still waiting for your evidence as to why there is no evidence for a flood in ice core samples.

If it is the case you believe all ice caps, sheets and glaciers are only 5,000yrs old, i'm still waitng on the evidence which proves such a theory.

some people have dated the flood in about 2250 BC so the ice caps would have to be younger than 5k

Originally posted by galveston75
I've got some things working on that...

speaking of flood at about 2250 Bc could you please explain the egyptians? (observe that i used the same manner of requesting as you did when you asked me about them polystrate trees)

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
speaking of flood at about 2250 Bc could you please explain the egyptians? (observe that i used the same manner of requesting as you did when you asked me about them polystrate trees)

It actually happened in 2370 BCE. What about the Egyptians?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Galvo, i'm still waiting for your evidence as to why there is no evidence for a flood in ice core samples.

If it is the case you believe all ice caps, sheets and glaciers are only 5,000yrs old, i'm still waitng on the evidence which proves such a theory.

Here is one theory worth considering?


Ice floats, but not under all conditions:
Try this experiment: Take a cupful of ice cubes from your freezer, pour them into a metal or stoneware bowl, and place the bowl in the freezer for a couple of hours. After a couple of hours, remove the bowl, set it on the counter, and quickly pour a glass of tap water over the ice inside the bowl. You will find that the ice will remain stuck to the bottom of the bowl, completely submerged under the water until the bowl's surface warms enough to melt the bond. If you transfer this concept to something on the scale of a mountain glacier, it takes an extended period of time for the bedrock to warm, or for water to seep under to dissolve a more extensive bond.
The massive Greenland Ice Sheet may be a little different story. Although the fresh water from Noah's flood would certainly be much less buoyant than heavier sea water, meaning less pressure on the ice to float off, the sheer scale of the Ice Sheet could make a stress breakup unavoidable even if the bottom of the sheet was frozen fast to the continent.
At the bottom of the GISP2 bore hole the temperature is -9° C and shows that the ice sheet is frozen tight to the bedrock. From the top of the ice sheet, down to about 2,790 meters, both the GISP2 and GRIP records are nearly identical. Since these two holes are about 30 km apart, that indicates that the composition of the ice record is consistent across a large area, or at least between those two holes.
But below 2,790 meters the continuity vanishes. Quoting from a portion of the previously referenced "The GISP2 Ice Core Record - Paleoclimate Highlights" web pages:

The climatic significance of the deeper part of the GISP2 ice core, below 2790 m depth and 110 kyr age, is a matter of considerable investigation and controversy. The isotopic temperature records and electrical conductivity records of GISP2 and GRIP, so similar for ice <110 kyr in age, are very different in the lower part [ Grootes et al., 1993; Taylor et al., 1993a]. Ice in GISP2 below 2790 m depth is folded and tilted, and shows evidence of unconformities [ Gow et al., 1993].

This finding of folded and tilted layers and unconformities gives support to the possibility that the massive ice sheet may have been fractured and was lifted off by the global flood of Noah's time, or possibly the earlier flood found at Genesis 1:2. After floating free, the massive sheet would have remained fairly well in the same northern latitudes during such an event [held relatively stationary due to northward-tending currents induced by Earth's Coriolis Force (effect)]. and very little would have melted. As the flood waters receded, the ice sheet would then gently settle back down and eventually fuse over the submerged ice that had not broken away, because the remaining bottom ice was still frozen solid to the bedrock.
Bottom line: This question will remain open until further data collection can provide the answers.

I'm not agreeing with this but because none of us were there during the flood to witness what happened...We just don't know

Originally posted by twhitehead
Did you study geography in school? If you did, you should already know the answer - or you had a lousy teacher.

I think 7-8th grade I did get some geography. LOL Might not be the teachers fault. I need a refresher no joke no to be flippant.



Manny

Originally posted by menace71
G75 ? where do you get this date from?




Manny

Adam was created in 4026 and died in the year 3096 at the age of 930 years. Noah was born 126 years after Adam's death in the year 2970 BCE. Noah was 600 years old when the deluge started which was the year 2370 BCE.
It's all in Genesis chapters 5,6 & 7.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Done it thanks, and it doesn't add up.

You claimed it had been proven years ago, all i'm asking is that you show me.

I don't think it's too much to ask.

If it doesn't add up, then why do you keep asking for proof?

You're either unsure of your position or you just want to argue about it.

Which is it?

Originally posted by galveston75
Adam was created in 4026 and died in the year 3096 at the age of 930 years. Noah was born 126 years after Adam's death in the year 2970 BCE. Noah was 600 years old when the deluge started which was the year 2370 BCE.
It's all in Genesis chapters 5,6 & 7.

There is no way to know this for an absolute fact. You know the calendar is off. At least the Calendar we use today. Also the genealogies are not alway Father to son. 4026 BC ? Or BCE ? By your calculations the world is 6036 years old. What's the oldest calendar still in use? Chinese or Jewish ? I have trouble with this.




Manny

Originally posted by menace71
There is no way to know this for an absolute fact. You know the calendar is off. At least the Calendar we use today. Also the genealogies are not alway Father to son. 4026 BC ? Or BCE ? By your calculations the world is 6036 years old. What's the oldest calendar still in use? Chinese or Jewish ? I have trouble with this.




Manny

I really don't know Manny. If you find out let me know. But I think 1975 was the 6000 years from Adam's creation.

Originally posted by menace71
I think 7-8th grade I did get some geography. LOL Might not be the teachers fault. I need a refresher no joke no to be flippant.



Manny

Well you could always start with Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics

Essentially, mountains are formed when plates move towards each other, thus lifting up the land. It clearly makes sense that land that was formerly a sea bed could end up on top of a mountain.