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@divegeester said
You are an odd character.

You believe that salvation can be lost, but you deny its existence when you are confronted by it!

Let’s have a think about why you would adopt this cognitive dissonance…

Is it simply because your pride will not let you acknowledge that FMF once had what you have now I wonder…. You know what, I think that’s it.

Bingo!!

Who are you?

@kellyjay said
You are speaking for the entire human race and God as if you know.

I am merely talking about what Christian faith is.

@kellyjay said
I'm sure you comfort yourself thinking that.

"Comfort" in what way?

@kellyjay said
I'm simply taking you at your word; your word is what you once had; you now deny
it was true for you, which translates it could never be true for everyone else. You
deny it in everyone, so for the sake of argument, what you are saying is it could
never be true for anyone ever. So, according to you, because it was never true for
you, you make that mean it's also not true for everyone else, always, everywhere!

Well, you believe your claims that 'faith in Jesus leads to people gaining immortality' applies to everyone else, everywhere, not just you, and you believe that your claim that 'not having faith in Jesus leads to people being tortured for eternity' applies to everyone else everywhere, not just, so, come come, lets not be squeamish all of a sudden, KellyJay.

@fmf said
I am merely talking about what Christian faith is.

Yes, what you say about it is the Christian faith is not true since truth doesn't change
due to time or place; it never was according to you when it came to your life and
everyone else's. You professed it, you did that, but you changed your mind. I'm not
arguing you didn't profess it, only that Jesus Christ was never a part of your life by
your own admission.

@kellyjay said
How am I twisting anything?

I don't think you sufficiently comprehend my side of this conversation to be able to "twist" it. You just keep telling me over and over and over again what the tenets of your faith are, which I already know.

@kellyjay said
Yes, what you say about it is the Christian faith is not true since truth doesn't change
due to time or place; it never was according to you when it came to your life and
everyone else's. You professed it, you did that, but you changed your mind.

I know what the tenets of your faith are, KellyJay. I used to have the same faith.

@kellyjay said
I'm not
arguing you didn't profess it, only that Jesus Christ was never a part of your life by
your own admission.

Belief in Jesus Christ WAS part of my life, KellyJay. Just as belief in Jesus Christ is part of yours

@fmf said
Well, you believe your claims that 'faith in Jesus leads to people gaining immortality' applies to everyone else, everywhere, not just you, and you believe that your claim that 'not having faith in Jesus leads to people being tortured for eternity' applies to everyone else everywhere, not just, so, come come, lets not be squeamish all of a sudden, KellyJay.

I'm professing that God will judge the world in righteousness; I've never been
squeamish about that. Absolutely everyone He created will give an account for
every choice, word, and thought; if we have lied, we will be judged liars; if we
in our hearts lusted, adulterers, whatever standard we use to condemn someone
because we acknowledge that truth, without exception, we will face that too.

None of us can stand up to that standard, which is why we need a Savior, but you
know this. God is sovereign; there isn't a tiny particle in the universe or some
galactic body He didn't create and maintain. He holds everything together,
maintains it all, and set up the universe to produce life, and we have turned it into a
death mill instead; we have people demanding the right to slaughter their children
in their wombs; we have fallen so far away from life and goodness.

Since we were made in His image, we have choices to love or hate, to do good or
evil. There are consequences to everything, and no one will get away with any crime
against another, every wrong will be dealt with in full in Christ or not.

@fmf said
Belief in Jesus Christ WAS part of my life, KellyJay. Just as belief in Jesus Christ is part of yours

Do you see me denying that in anything I have said? I'm pointing out to you that
the reality of that matters, and anyone can profess anything for any reason. You can
profess to be a Christian because you go to church but do not have the life of God in
you; the profession is the same, the life of God not so much.

@kellyjay said
I'm professing that God will judge the world in righteousness; I've never been
squeamish about that. Absolutely everyone He created will give an account for
every choice, word, and thought; if we have lied, we will be judged liars; if we
in our hearts lusted, adulterers, whatever standard we use to condemn someone
because we acknowledge that truth, without exception, we ...[text shortened]... l get away with any crime
against another, every wrong will be dealt with in full in Christ or not.

I am fully aware of what the details of your faith are. I used to share these same beliefs. But, however you dice it, your faith is a function of cognition and not some supernatural transformation that you have undergone.

@kellyjay said
Do you see me denying that in anything I have said?

Why would you? You are STILL a Christian.

@kellyjay said
You can
profess to be a Christian because you go to church but do not have the life of God in
you; the profession is the same, the life of God not so much.

I acknowledge fully that you believe that you "have the life of God in you". I acknowledge fully that you profess to be a Christian.

@kellyjay said
Who are you?

I’m divegeester, another poster who is observing your behaviour in this thread with great interest, a little amusement and who finds you to be a bit of an odd character.

You say you believe that salvation can be lost, but you deny the existence of this phenomena when you are confronted by it. Let’s have a think about why you would adopt this cognitive dissonance…

Is it simply because your pride will not let you acknowledge that FMF once had what you have now I wonder…. You know what, I think that’s it!

What say you KellyJay?

@kellyjay said
I'm professing that God will judge the world in righteousness; I've never been
squeamish about that.

Whoosh

[...in terms of my use of the word "squeamish"].