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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I'll give it a shot:

'There once was a chap pusillanimous,
his grovelling waffle sanctimonious,
he lived to pontificate
and religiously suffocate
yet his views on hell were erroneous.'

🙂
Better.

See what you can do with this one.

You are missing the point, sonship. Deliberately so, I suspect. Why would I want to get you kicked off the site? I have suggested nothing of the sort.

My advice is that, if you want to hack up endless rote-learned technobabble about your torturer god, why don't you find an environment where you can do so unimpeded and where you can delete unwanted responses to your grotesque philosophy, or an environment where other fanatical torturer god proponents will lap up your monologues or applaud your ostentatious self-declared holiness?

Then, here, on what is not a dedicated Christian web site, where you are among people of different beliefs and backgrounds, you could offer some kind of reason to emulate your mind map, be some kind of ambassador for the practical application of your religion, talk about real lives, real people, real stuff ~ rather than disgorging lifeless dirges about doctrine, mythology, dogma, condemnations, dark misanthropy and attempted psychological threats.

It's a recommendation, sonship. No one is going to report you to the 'webmaster' for being the self-important self-appointed 'holier-than-thou' ideologue that you are. The recommendation is that you take that particular aspect of you vainly getting-your-intellectual-emotional-rocks-off to a different kind of venue, and use this place instead to be a better more thought-provoking example of what a Christian can be - someone admirable, enviable, impressive, joyful, empowered ~ less brittle, less sulky, less self-obsessed. You must know the kind of Christians I'm talking about. I certainly do.

You come across like a hard line Trotskyite who's never once set foot outside the confines of the university campus, never done a day's work, never travelled abroad, never talked to a working person, never been able to talk properly to non-Trotskyites, never stood for office etc. etc. and yet claims to know the workings of the human condition based on some texts he's been poring over. And yet I know your life has not been like that.

My recommendation is not about you withdrawing from the public square at all, as you know full well, sonship. It's about what you are doing in it/with it.

In all your time in this one - this public square - how many non-believers do you think you have convinced that they are going to one day be kept alive in an incinerator for eternity as a punishment for having different beliefs from you? What are you using this public square for? Think about it.

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Originally posted by FMF to sonship
In all your time in this one - this public square - how many non-believers do you think you have convinced that they are going to one day be kept alive in an incinerator for eternity as a punishment for having different beliefs from you? What are you using this public square for? Think about it.
You felt able to estimate that I may be personally responsible for "hundreds of people" on this forum facing punishment by being kept alive in an incinerator for eternity, why then are you unable to estimate how many "hundreds of people" you have convinced this is true or how many "hundreds of people" on this forum you think you have saved from this fate by you. Why is that?

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Originally posted by sonship
I'm here in the public square. And I seek those who will consider Jesus Christ in their quest for genuine authentic Spirituality
You succeeded in silencing Deep Thought's interaction with you in this "public square" by likening him to a Holocaust denier. Was doing that to him part of your "quest for genuine authentic Spirituality"?

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note for sonship

You heard that it was said: “You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.”—Matt. 5:43.

To the above, Jesus added: “However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens.” (Matt. 5:44, 45) The apostle Paul made a similar point when he wrote: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.” (Rom. 12:20; Prov. 25:21) According to the Mosaic Law, a person was to help an enemy to free his animal that had fallen under its load. (Ex. 23:5) By working together in such a way, former enemies might become good friends. Because Christians show love, many of our enemies have softened their heart toward us. If we show love for our enemies—even rabid persecutors—how happy we will be if some of them embrace true Christianity!

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/dt/r1/lp-e/2016/11/2

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Originally posted by FMF
You succeeded in silencing Deep Thought's interaction with you in this "public square" by likening him to a Holocaust denier. Was doing that to him part of your "quest for genuine authentic Spirituality"?
People say many things in the heat of debate that they might not normally say under other circumstances and later regret, especially if they are provoked or someone manages to get 'under their skin'. Using the weaknesses of others as a pretext to invalidate their entire contribution is rather heinous FMF and betrays a lack of compassion.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I'll give it a shot:

'There once was a chap pusillanimous,
his grovelling waffle sanctimonious,
he lived to pontificate
and religiously suffocate
yet his views on hell were erroneous.'

🙂
bravo 🙂

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
bravo 🙂
The Ghost awaits your thumbs up with baited breath.

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Originally posted by FMF
You succeeded in silencing Deep Thought's interaction with you in this "public square" by likening him to a Holocaust denier. Was doing that to him part of your "quest for genuine authentic Spirituality"?
1.) I don't know anything about me "silencing" poster Deep Thought. I don't think that I have that much influence.

Deep Thought might have suspended talking to me.

2.) I understand that he was annoyed at my mentioning a comparison of (if I recall right) Holocaust deniers in relations to, historicity of Jesus deniers. But he misunderstood my use of the comparison.

3.) It was a point which he missed. The comparison between denying the historicity of Jesus with denying the Holocaust was about the development of untrue legends about actual historical happenings.

How long does it take?
From the time of actual persons or events, how can aberrations and conspiracy theories be invented. Issues like that was what I was talking about.

That point was underappreciated by the annoyed poster. And he thought I was insulting rather his decency. My point was not about his decency. It was about the unrealistic chasing of conspiracy theories of a legendary nature about actual acknowledged historical events.

I do not retract my point.
I could have had more tact in making the point.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
The Ghost awaits your thumbs up with baited breath.
some scoundrel thumbed you down, had to redress the balance!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
People say many things in the heat of debate that they might not normally say under other circumstances and later regret, especially if they are provoked or someone manages to get 'under their skin'. Using the weaknesses of others as a pretext to invalidate their entire contribution is rather heinous FMF and betrays a lack of compassion.
If sonship has ever expressed regret or apologized for comparing both Deep Thought and me to holocaust deniers, then you might want to point it out.

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Originally posted by sonship
1.) I don't know anything about me "silencing" poster Deep Thought. I don't think that I have that much influence.

Deep Thought might have suspended talking to me.

2.) I understand that he was annoyed at my mentioning a comparison of (if I recall right) Holocaust deniers in relations to, historicity of Jesus deniers. But he [b]misunderstoo ...[text shortened]... istorical events.

I do not retract my point.
I could have had more tact in making the point.
Have you apoligized to him?

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Originally posted by sonship
I understand that he was annoyed at my mentioning a comparison of (if I recall right) Holocaust deniers in relations to, historicity of Jesus deniers. But he [b]misunderstood my use of the comparison.[/b]
I don't deny the historicity of Jesus and never have. When you compared me to a holicaust denier it was because I said I didn't believe he was a divine being.

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Originally posted by FMF
I don't deny the historicity of Jesus and never have. When you compared me to a holicaust denier it was because I said I didn't believe he was a divine being.
I don't think I was talking to you when I made the comment.
I was talking to Deep Thought, I believe.
I have no idea of what you think about that matter.

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Originally posted by FMF
Have you apoligized to him?
No.
I just said I lacked tack.

Sometimes people are offended when there has been no intentional offence.
I don't feel I need to apologize for an offence that was not intentional.

I am sorry that he got offended.
But I have no need to apologize.

You offend me a lot.
I don't go chasing you around for apologies.
And a large amount of your offenses are tailored, engineered, and designed to insult.

That's your prerogative to be that way.

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Originally posted by sonship
I don't think I was talking to you when I made the comment.
I was talking to Deep Thought, I believe.
I have no idea of what you think about that matter.
I'm not talking about when you likened Deep Thought to a holocaust denier, I am talking about when you likened me to a holocaust denier a few months ago when I told you I don't accept your assertions that Jesus was divine.

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