Questions for Deification Deniers

Avalanche,

About the punishment matter:

I'll tell you the brute truth of my personal experience. You may not believe it. But here it is in all honesty.

The pleasure of sinning can be so great that the thought of punishment in the future simply takes a back seat. You can think "Now I was told that there will be a judgment day. But frankly I am having such pleasure now in what I am doing in wrong doing that I seem to not care about the distant future."

The fear of having to one day be responsible is not always a deterrent. You just are too caught up in the enjoyment of iniquity you are living on NOW.

In biblical terms, Solomon said -

"Because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the children of men is fully set within them to do evil." (Ecc. 8:11)

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@sonship said
Avalanche,

Moving to another planet, the Dyson's sphere, uploading human consciousness. Isn't that the stuff of making humans immortal?

Hoping evolution will survival of the fittest finally produce a species involnerable to death completely being so totally adapted, - isn't that the stuff of hoping nature will eventually produce immortatlity?

I thi ...[text shortened]... at these positive effects take place before man kills off himself and everything else on the planet.

@sonship said
I'll tell you the brute truth of my personal experience. You may not believe it. But here it is in all honesty. The pleasure of sinning can be so great that the thought of punishment in the future simply takes a back seat. You can think "Now I was told that there will be a judgment day. But frankly I am having such pleasure now in what I am doing in wrong doing that I see ...[text shortened]... always a deterrent. You just are too caught up in the enjoyment of iniquity you are living on NOW.

@sonship said
Avalanche,

About the punishment matter:

I'll tell you the brute truth of my personal experience. You may not believe it. But here it is in all honesty.

The pleasure of sinning can be so great that the thought of punishment in the future simply takes a back seat. You can think "Now I was told that there will be a judgment day. But frankly I am h ...[text shortened]... , therefore the heart of the children of men is fully set within them to do evil." (Ecc. 8:11) [/b]

@sonship said
The pleasure of sinning can be so great that the thought of punishment in the future simply takes a back seat.

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Where is the mighty uproar you speak of.
That is what you WANTED to happen, which didn't.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Where is the Christian support for your idea of human deification?

Anybody?

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Where is the Christian support for your idea of human deification?

Anybody?

Fine with me. Take a poll.

Fine with me.

In fact I'll do one too.

Does Ghost of a Duke help you to love the Lord Jesus more ?

Anybody ?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Where is the Christian support for your idea of human deification?

Anybody?

@kevin-eleven said
“God became man that man might become God.”
– Athanasius (ca 298–373)

see also John 17

[p.s. -- I wish there were a search function for individual threads, e.g., so I could check whether Athanasius had already been mentioned in this thread.]

@kevin-eleven said
“God became man that man might become God.”
– Athanasius (ca 298–373)

see also John 17

May the Pleroma of the chiliocosms fill everyone's cup just right.

[p.s. -- I wish there were a search function for individual threads, e.g., so I could check whether Athanasius had already been mentioned in this thread.]

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Where is the Christian support for your idea of human deification?

Anybody?

Fine with me. Take a poll.

Fine with me.

In fact I'll do one too.

Does Ghost of a Duke help you to love the Lord Jesus more ?

Anybody ?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Our old friend Wiki explains it thusly:

In the 4th century, Athanasius of Alexandria taught that God became Man that man might become God. Essentially, man does not become divine, but in Christ can partake of divine nature. This Church's version of salvation restores the likeness of God in man.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Two things are true in this thread:

1. As an atheist, I don't help anybody love Jesus.
2. Christians have called you (sonship) blasphemous for your deification grandeurs.