Questions for Deification Deniers

@sonship said
What do you think PB1022?

Christ, ever living to intercede for us.
Do you think that could conceivably mean intercession for salvation to deification - "save . . . to the uttermost?"

@divegeester
Surely you know that with a little further googling one can arrive at definitions CLOSER to the usage of a word.

For example: (not necessarily endoring all things below). Its closer to this discussion:

https://www.gotquestions.org/deification.html

What is deification in the Eastern Orthodox Church?

Deification or theosis, according to Eastern Orthodoxy, is a process by which one becomes “one with God,” and this is seen as the goal of the Christian life. This unity with God is a mystical concept that is often misunderstood by Western thinkers. The Eastern Orthodox Church is staunchly Trinitarian, and the term deification should not be misunderstood to imply that a human being can actually become God or a god, nor does this amount to pantheism. It is said that man cannot become one with God in His essence, but he can become one with His energies. Love, for instance, is a divine energy, and it is possible for the believer to be fully united and overcome by God’s love.

Deification
Further information: Divinization (Christian)

Athanasius of Alexandria wrote, "He was incarnate that we might be made god" (Αὐτὸς γὰρ ἐνηνθρώπησεν, ἵνα ἡμεῖς θεοποιηθῶμεν ). [4] What would otherwise seem absurd—that fallen, sinful man may become holy as God is holy—has been made possible through Jesus Christ, who is God incarnate. Naturally, the crucial Christian assertion, that God is One, sets an absolute limit on the meaning of theosis: even as it is not possible for any created being to become God ontologically, or even a necessary part of God (of the three existences of God called hypostases), so a created being cannot become Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit nor the Father of the Trinity.[5]

Most specifically creatures, i.e. created beings, cannot become God in His transcendent essence, or ousia, hyper-being (see apophaticism). Such a concept would be the henosis, or absorption and fusion into God of Greek pagan philosophy. However, every being and reality itself is considered as composed of the immanent energy, or energeia, of God. As energy is the actuality of God, i.e. his immanence, from God's being, it is also the energeia or activity of God. Thus the doctrine avoids pantheism while partially accepting Neoplatonism's terms and general concepts, but not its substance (see Plotinus).[5]

Closer to the "Deification" usage in this discussion:


From Wikapedia

Christianity
Main article: Divinization (Christian)
Instead of the word "apotheosis", Christian theology uses in English the words "deification" or "divinization" or the Greek word "theosis". Pre-Reformation and mainstream theology, in both East and West, views Jesus Christ as the preexisting God who undertook mortal existence, not as a mortal being who attained divinity. It holds that he has made it possible for human beings to be raised to the level of sharing the divine nature: he became human to make humans "partakers of the divine nature"[6][original research?] "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."[7] "For He was made man that we might be made God."[8] "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."[9]

The Westminster Dictionary of Christian Theology, authored by Anglican Priest Alan Richardson,[10] contains the following in an article titled "Deification":

Deification (Greek theosis) is for Orthodoxy the goal of every Christian. Man, according to the Bible, is 'made in the image and likeness of God.'. . . It is possible for man to become like God, to become deified, to become god by grace. This doctrine is based on many passages of both OT and NT (e.g. Ps. 82 (81).6; II Peter 1.4), and it is essentially the teaching both of St Paul, though he tends to use the language of filial adoption (cf. Rom. 8.9–17; Gal. 4.5–7), and the Fourth Gospel (cf. 17.21–23).

The language of II Peter is taken up by St Irenaeus, in his famous phrase, 'if the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods' (Adv. Haer V, Pref.), and becomes the standard in Greek theology. In the fourth century, St. Athanasius repeats Irenaeus almost word for word, and in the fifth century, St. Cyril of Alexandria says that we shall become sons 'by participation' (Greek methexis). Deification is the central idea in the spirituality of St. Maximus the Confessor, for whom the doctrine is the corollary of the Incarnation: 'Deification, briefly, is the encompassing and fulfillment of all times and ages,' . . . and St. Symeon the New Theologian at the end of the tenth century writes, 'He who is God by nature converses with those whom he has made gods by grace, as a friend converses with his friends, face to face.'

@divegeester

Does your involvement with Christianity have anything to do with being better, other, or more persistent than you already are?

If so, why so? Why not just start with accepting yourself as you are, despite everything you might regret?

And yet, despite all this appeal to people who agree with you using copious copy-pasting, sonship, you have not made your case on this thread.

@FMF
Don't you have some head bangers or electric guitar players to go off and worship?

@sonship said
@FMF
Don't you have some head bangers or electric guitar players to go off and worship?

@fmf said
And yet, despite all this appeal to people who agree with your copy-pasting, sonship, you have not made your case on this thread.

@fmf said
Are you referring to a thread topic you didn't like very much?

Ah yes, you used the word "worship".

I see what you did there.

@sonship said
@FMF
Don't you have some head bangers or electric guitar players to go off and worship?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
But not a single Christian has supported your deification nonsense.

@kevin-eleven removed their quoted post

@divegeester