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@sonship said
You tried to limit the understanding "deification" to what you cut and pasted selectively from Collins Dictionary, for your purposes.
No, he didn't try to "limit" the definition. His was making an observation about your undisguised narcissism.

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@sonship said
The theological arena of "deification" in Christian thought is what was needed.
And yet you have been studiously blanking out almost all theological responses to your bogus elicitations because the role you are casting yourself in on this thread is that of a propagandist and not one involved in a debate or discussion.

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Believers in Christ (primarily) -

In what sense was Jesus a "Forerunner?"

"Where the Forerunner, Jesus, has entered for us, having become forever a High Preist according to the order of Melchizedek." (Heb 6:20)

The word "Forerunner" suggests one who has led the way, gone before, taken the lead into something. Jesus is said to have gone before as a "Forerunner".

Into what ort what matter has Jesus been to the Christians the "Forerunner?".

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IN what sense was Jesus Christ a "Forerunner?"

A few other English translations:

Amplified Bible
where Jesus has entered [in advance] as a forerunner for us, having become a High Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

Berean Literal Bible
where Jesus, the forerunner for us, has entered, having become a high priest to the age, according to the order of Melchizedek.

King James Bible
Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

New King James Version
where the forerunner has entered for us, even Jesus, having become High Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

New American Standard Bible
where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

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You mean that no one can look at the context of Hebrews 6:20 and express in what sense Jesus is a Forerunner?

In what sense did the writer explain Jesus is a Forerunner?
Into what or into where did He forerun?

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@sonship said
You mean that no one can look at the context of Hebrews 6:20 and express in what sense Jesus is a Forerunner?

In what sense did the writer explain Jesus is a Forerunner?
Into what or into where did He forerun?
Are you claiming now (erroneously) that Jesus was a forerunner into deification? Is that the angle you're now trying to hoodwink Christians with?

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You can answer a simplier question.

Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

Is that a true statement or a false one?

I mean while you're on your subject of - "to hoodwink Christians?"

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@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke


You can answer a simplier question.

Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

Is that a true statement or a false one?

I mean while you're on your subject of - to "hoodwink Christians?"
It's true that the Bible says that. It is not true that the Bible says man will become a God.

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In what sense can you deduce from the surrounding discussion of Hebrews 6, O Christians (primarily) that Jesus is a Forerunner?

Shouldn't the answer be right there in that section of the book of Hebrews?
Don't be afraid.


I mean while Ghost of a Duke prepares to give you all "help" on whether or not to believe the first sentence in the Bible. He's going to give us the help with his "defend classical Christianity" apolgetic skills.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Are you claiming now (erroneously) that Jesus was a forerunner into deification? Is that the angle you're now trying to hoodwink Christians with?
I’ve never encountered an atheist so concerned about someone allegedly misrepresenting a God the atheist doesn’t believe exists. 👻 😜

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He is extremely concerned with the sin of blasphamy apparently.

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Maybe Jesus being a Forerunner will prove deification is a false idea.

How do we know unless we examine it for some contemplation?

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke

It's true that the Bible says that. It is not true that the Bible says man will become a God.


So is it true or not ?

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Gen. 1:1)

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He is extremely concerned with the sin of blasphamy apparently.
Blasphemy against an entity he doesn’t think exists. Bizarre.

And it’s not just a passing fancy with him. He’s made it his life’s mission.

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Jesus was a Forerunner in what sense ?

If we follow Him WHEREVER or into WHATEVER He foreruns then He is leading the way and we believers are following.

Right?

But into what are we following this Forerunner?

Does it mean I can one day shed my blood for the eternal redemption of others?
Or is it follow Him where He leads in some other sense?

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