Questions for Deification Deniers

@kingdavid403 said
Oh, KingDavid403, you hve some good atheist cheerleaders ready to stand with you. Ghost of a Duke and FMF have their pom poms flaying rooting you on. lol... Do they have those sexy, short skirt, cheerleader outfits on? If so, I'm in.
"KingDavid, KingDavid, he's our man. If he can't do it nobody can." Well, thank you Son. lol... Do what? may I ask?
...[text shortened]... oth could debunk you themselves at anytime. They're actually being fairly nice to you, considering.

KingDavid403,

Here's what I mean by Ghost's cheerleading you on whether you intend debunking or not. You did show them red meat when you said you didn't believe very much of what I have written in this thread.

Of course it is consequential. When is specialized knowledge on a topic ever of no consequence, especially when received by academics who know the topic far better than you ever will?

@sonship said
@KingDavid403

I need no talk about redemption and regeneration. If you need to talk about these things, please feel free to do so, if you have any questions.

I do have a question for you.
First a little background to my inquiry.

The letter from Paul we discussed mentioned that for him to expire (die) pre-maturely was to be with Christ his ...[text shortened]... ht now, would you be with the Lord ?
And do you have this assurance and confidence as Paul had?

Other interestering and relevant quote from John Pester on Hebrews.

"The first reference to salvation in Hebrews 1:14 speaks of the believers' inheritance of salvation, and the second reference 2:3 speaks of the possibility of neglecting this salvation. If, as many think. salvation is synonomous with redemption, there would be nothing for us to either inherit or neglect, because we have already obtained God's eternal redemption (9:12) and received the benefit of this eternal redemption - the forgiveness of our sins and lawlessnesses (10:17-18). In contrast to a limited understanding of salvation as redemption, chapters 1 and 2 of Hebrews present a much fuller understanding of salvation in God's economical operation."

Affirmation and Critique Vol XV No. 2 Fall 2010, pg. 50

KingDavid403, PB2010, KellyJay,

It is commonly known among some of us in the local churches that one Paul. E. Billheimer wrote a book "Destined for the Throne" . He touches matters which I have touched here on deification.

Examine one of many copies of the classic. Notice that the preface was written by none ofther than evangelical stalwart Billy Graham.

https://archive.org/details/destinedforthron00paul

stalwart
stôl′wərt
adjective

Loyal and resolute.
Strong and imposing.

If you can't receive it from Witness Lee, or John Pester or me, maybe you could consider some of this from one Paul. E. Billhiemer's book Destine For the Throne. Bullhiemer was not a co-worker of Witness Lee.

Some heading on its advertisement -

Follow the Author
Paul E. Billheimer
. . .
Destined for the Throne: How Spiritual Warfare Prepares the Bride of Christ for Her Eternal Destiny Paperback – September 1, 2005

First published nearly 30 years ago, Destined for the Throne continues to train believers for their heavenly destiny. God's eternal purpose, Billheimer says, has been the preparation of an eternal companion for His Son. This preparation takes place as Christians engage in spiritual warfare and practice believing prayer. "[A] thorough presentation of God's total purpose and destiny for the church...satisfying and demanding," said Norman Grubb, former International Director of WEC.

@sonship said
KingDavid403, PB2010, KellyJay...

@sonship removed their quoted post

More exposure to BIllhiemer's similar treatment to the subject of God's deification of the believers.

Destined for the Throne, repackaged edition
By: Paul E. Billheimer

With its message of God's love for His bride and believers' triumph in Christ, Destined for the Throne has been a rousing call to prayer for thousands. God's eternal purpose, writes Paul Billheimer (Don't Waste Your Sorrows), has been the preparation and training of an eternal companion for His Son: the Bride of Christ. This preparation takes place as believers engage in spiritual warfare, and as they exercise believing prayer. God has chosen to work in the world through His children's prayers; Christians need prayer in order to practice for their heavenly destiny.

With its message of God's love for His bride and believers' triumph in Christ, Destined for the Throne has been a rousing call to prayer for thousands. God's eternal purpose, writes Paul Billheimer (Don't Waste Your Sorrows), has been the preparation and training of an eternal companion for His Son: the Bride of Christ. This preparation takes place as believers engage in spiritual warfare, and as they exercise believing prayer. God has chosen to work in the world through His children's prayers; Christians need prayer in order to practice for their heavenly destiny.

@sonship said
More exposure to BIllhiemer's similar treatment to the subject of God's deification of the believers.

[quote]
Destined for the Throne, repackaged edition
By: Paul E. Billheimer

With its message of God's love for His bride and believers' triumph in Christ, Destined for the Throne has been a rousing call to prayer for thousands. God's eternal purpose, writes Paul B ...[text shortened]... estined-for-the-throne-repackaged-edition/paul-billheimer/9780764200359/pd/200536#CBD-PD-Description

KellyJay, PB2010,
Someone is really eager to pit me against other believers here. His initials are FMF.

Consider that Billy Graham would write a forward to such a book.
And consider the description.

With its message of God's love for His bride and believers' triumph in Christ, Destined for the Throne has been a rousing call to prayer for thousands. God's eternal purpose, writes Paul Billheimer (Don't Waste Your Sorrows), has been the preparation and training of an eternal companion for His Son: the Bride of Christ. This preparation takes place as believers engage in spiritual warfare, and as they exercise believing prayer. God has chosen to work in the world through His children's prayers; Christians need prayer in order to practice for their heavenly destiny.

First published nearly 30 years ago, Destined for the Throne continues to train believers for their heavenly destiny. God's eternal purpose, Billheimer says, has been the preparation of an eternal companion for His Son. This preparation takes place as Christians engage in spiritual warfare and practice believing prayer. "[A] thorough presentation of God's total purpose and destiny for the church...satisfying and demanding," said Norman Grubb, former International Director of WEC.
Author Bio

Paul E. Billheimer and his wife began a tent ministry in Anderson, Indiana, in 1936 that grew to include a Bible institute, a Christian high school, a Christian day school, and, in 1957, a Christian television station. His books include Don't Waste Your Sorrows, Love Covers, Destined to Overcome, and Destined for the Cross. He and his wife spent their later years working with Trinity Broadcasting Network. They were married for 63 years and raised three children. Paul Billheimer passed away in 1984.

@sonship said
KellyJay, PB2010,
Someone is really eager to pit me against other believers here. His initials are FMF.

Consider that Billy Graham would write a forward to such a book.
And consider the description.
[quote]
With its message of God's love for His bride and believers' triumph in Christ, Destined for the Throne has been a rousing call to prayer for thousands. God's ...[text shortened]... estined-for-the-throne-repackaged-edition/paul-billheimer/9780764200359/pd/200536#CBD-PD-Description

@sonship said
KellyJay, PB2010...

Surely an Appeal to Billheimer is a logical fallacy?