The danger of a morality based on religion

@whodey said
Your take on religion is the knowledge of man.

Exactly.

@fmf said
Exactly.

Which is flawed to some degree. The question is only, how much?

@secondson said
So then what is it about conscientiousness that you think is evidential of the supernatural?

I am talking about human consciousness not conscientiousness. The words mean different things. I referred to consciousnes. It's interesting to speculate that, while it is currently a frontier of human inquiry, it could be something that was created by a creator being.

@whodey said
Which is flawed to some degree. The question is only, how much?

It may be "the question" in your mind. You should pursue it if you want.

@fmf said
I do not rule out supernatural causality. You have settled for one particular package of religious folklore and doctrines. I think I am probably more open minded than you.

At this point, on page 4, it appears we've drifted away from the topic. I don't see how this reflects an open mind.

And I don't see how making the assertion that I have "settled" for anything demonstrates an open mind.

You say you don't rule out supernatural causality, but you appear to be reticent about having an open minded discussion in terms relative to the supernatural. Instead you display a closed minded attitude of dismissal by making unfounded and irrelevant assertions designed to belittle another's faith practice.

Apparently staying on topic is too much for your open mind.

@fmf said
No, I am not "scared" at all. Nor am I "scared" of the threats of supernatural torment in burning flames for eternity that some Christians here propagate.

There again you've lost the thread and have shown that your open mind allows you to drift further and further from the topic by introducing ideas not relative to the topic, which only serve to dismantle discourse.

I think scatter-brained would be a better description.

@secondson said
And I don't see how making the assertion that I have "settled" for anything demonstrates an open mind.

You having settled for a particular package of religious doctrines and narratives compromises your suggestion that it is me, and not you, that doesn't have an open mind.

@secondson said
You say you don't rule out supernatural causality, but you appear to be reticent about having an open minded discussion in terms relative to the supernatural.

I am not "reticent" at all. I don't think you know what the word means. I am the opposite. I am forthright and proactive and have been for many years.

@secondson said
Apparently staying on topic is too much for your open mind.

I am talking to you about what it seems you want to talk about.

@secondson said
There again you've lost the thread and have shown that your open mind allows you to drift further and further from the topic by introducing ideas not relative to the topic, which only serve to dismantle discourse.

You said that you thought I was "scared" of the supernatural. So I responded to that. If talking about me being "scared" is "drift", then that "drift" was introduced by you.

@fmf said
We are just sharing our perspectives, that's all.

"Sharing"? Sharing is for pre-schoolers. This is an adult debate forum where we assert our ideas. We're engaged in discourse with a purpose. If you want to "share" go to the park and share your candy with the toddlers.

@secondson said
Instead you display a closed minded attitude of dismissal by making unfounded and irrelevant assertions designed to belittle another's faith practice.

You are against saying things to other posters with the intention of "belittling" them?

@secondson said
"Sharing"? Sharing is for pre-schoolers. This is an adult debate forum where we assert our ideas. We're engaged in discourse with a purpose. If you want to "share" go to the park and share your candy with the toddlers.

Sharing persectives on spiritual matters is for adults too.

@fmf said
Like I say, I am open to the possibility of supernatural causality.

I don't think so. If you were open you'd remain objective and stay on topic. Instead you swerve off topic and generate tangential and unwarranted assertions, and comments that reveal your disdain for those that have faith.

You are extremely closed minded.

@fmf said
Religions give billions and billions of people meaning, purpose and solace. I would not describe it as "a waste of the mind".

Your condescension is noted.