21 Aug 14
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Originally posted by divegeesterthen don’t, its plain to see that you have not provided a single scriptural reference for any claims you have made and you cannot tell us why the garden of Eden was literal but the trees in it were not. Nothing more for me to say, logic and reason have triumphed. All you have succeeded in doing is making yourself look stupid. Adios.
I'm afraid I can't converse with you until you acknowledge that Galveston's assertion that the garden of Eden was destroyed by Noah's flood is his self certified zombie drool.
I'm enjoying this.
21 Aug 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieLook through the thread robbie I posted my rational at least three times.
then don’t, its plain to see that you have not provided a single scriptural reference for any claims you have made and you cannot tell us why the garden of Eden was literal but the trees in it were not. Nothing more for me to say, logic and reason have triumphed. All you have succeeded in doing is making yourself look stupid. Adios.
21 Aug 14
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Originally posted by divegeesterI am uninterested in your rational, i am interested in the Biblical scriptures you used to provide a Biblical perspective, after all, i am a christian, not a disciple of yours. Either you have a scriptural basis or you don’t.
Look through the thread robbie I posted my rational at least three times.
21 Aug 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI provided scriptures. Have you asked Galveston to provide scriptures to support what is otherwise his self certified opinion? Do you agree with him? Is what he said the official Jehovah witness position
I am uninterested in your rational, i am interested in the Biblical scriptures you used to provide a Biblical perspective, after all, i am a christian, not a disciple of yours. Either you have a scriptural basis or you don’t.
21 Aug 14
Originally posted by divegeesterI couldn’t find a single one and seeing that you will not say what they are or you will not tell us how the garden of Eden was literal but the trees in it were not, its clear you are uninterested in the matter, i will give my attention therefore to something vastly more interesting.
I provided scriptures. Have you asked Galveston to provide scriptures to support what is otherwise his self certified opinion? Do you agree with him? Is what he said the official Jehovah witness position
21 Aug 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo, the tree is literal and means what "tree" ordinarily means, the garden it stood in is literal and means what "garden" ordinarily means, the death is literal and means what "death" ordinarily means, but the 'day' of dying you interpret to mean "started to die" and is stretched out over decades or even centuries (OT patriarchs are often reported to have lived to such advanced ages)--which is not what "dying" ordinarily (literally) means. You're cherry picking.
because he started to die on that day, how hard can it be?
21 Aug 14
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Originally posted by moonbusI gave the meaning of the term, 'you will certainly die', from the Hebrew, you may make a reference to that because it demonstrates that the process of death was one of continuation, not instant. Cherry picking is once again an unfounded assertion and merely an opinion.
So, the tree is literal and means what "tree" ordinarily means, the garden it stood in is literal and means what "garden" ordinarily means, the death is literal and means what "death" ordinarily means, but the 'day' of dying you interpret to mean "started to die" and is stretched out over decades or even centuries (OT patriarchs are often reported to have li ...[text shortened]... h advanced ages)--which is not what "dying" ordinarily (literally) means. You're cherry picking.
I have stated that there was a literal tree, i have said nothing about what it symbolized, for it could both be a literal and tree and symbolic of something at the same time, like the tree of knowledge of good and bad, a literal tree but also a symbol of Gods sovereignty.
21 Aug 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBye.
I couldn’t find a single one and seeing that you will not say what they are or you will not tell us how the garden of Eden was literal but the trees in it were not, its clear you are uninterested in the matter, i will give my attention therefore to something vastly more interesting.
21 Aug 14
Originally posted by moonbusAlthough I don't agree with all you've posted, I've enjoyed your open mindedness and honesty in these few exchanges.
So, the tree is literal and means what "tree" ordinarily means, the garden it stood in is literal and means what "garden" ordinarily means, the death is literal and means what "death" ordinarily means, but the 'day' of dying you interpret to mean "started to die" and is stretched out over decades or even centuries (OT patriarchs are often reported to have li ...[text shortened]... h advanced ages)--which is not what "dying" ordinarily (literally) means. You're cherry picking.
22 Aug 14
Originally posted by lemon limeAre you saying that when God said "on THIS day you will surely die" that he was being in some way allegorical?
"the day" means the day he eats of that fruit. It doesn't mean he will die on that day. Cause and effect. If you do this, then that will surely happen. If I say you will surely die, it doesn't mean you will die right now. It just means that it will surely happen.
