The god who burns people alive for eternity

@divegeester said
Well, once your moral compass, your wider understanding of biblical scripture describing the nature of God and Christ and once you apply common sense to both of those you immediately realise that it cannot mean what you are proposing it means...

I.e. a literal place of eternal torture where the same Jesus who is speaking about love and everlasting (eternal) mercy and c ...[text shortened]... who do not follow him.

You have chosen to accept this lie, that is your prerogative. I will not.

Do you believe your moral compass should be guided by scripture or something else?

@divegeester said
Start a thread on it, perhaps you will find some people who want to play along with your little fetchmyjunk trolling games.

I’m not interested in your games Daniel. I’ve told you this dozens of times. You have ZERO credibility with me. I have more respect for the racist philokalia than I have for you. More respect for the childlike KellyJay than I have for you. More r ...[text shortened]... econdSon than I do for you. I am not interested in chasing your fetchmyjunk red herrings.

Punto.

Seems I touched a nerve.

@dj2becker said
Dive is probably going to say he’s not interested.

I’m interested in philokalia in this thread, I am not interested in you.

I don’t like you very much, I don’t trust you at all, and I don’t respect you, your opinion and especially your reprehensible behaviour in this forum in recent years.

Again. I am not interested in you. You need to understand this and internalise it. Work harder to grab my interest if you want to engage with me.

@dj2becker said
Seems I touched a nerve.

Not at all, I’m just talking to you in words a child would understand.

@divegeester said
I’m interested in philokalia in this thread, I am not interested in you.

I don’t like you very much, I don’t trust you at all, and I don’t respect you, your opinion and especially your reprehensible behaviour in this forum in recent years.

Again. I am not interested in you. You need to understand this and internalise it. Work harder to grab my interest if you want to engage with me.

Of course everyone should just answer your questions and as soon as you get a question that makes you uncomfortable you’re simply not interested. Well played Dive.

@divegeester

Whatever rhetoric soothes your troubled brow old chap, whatever...

More like whatever frank truth accurately describes the situation.
You - ie. " I hold you to strictly answer to 1,000 posts. I evade answering you however much I want."

@dj2becker said
Of course everyone should just answer your questions and as soon as you get a question that makes you uncomfortable you’re simply not interested. Well played Dive.

Ok go on then...ask your crappy question. Let’s see how bamboozled you make me.

@sonship said
@divegeester
More like whatever frank truth accurately describes the situation.

I contest that the doctrine of death, the doctrine of eternal suffering as laid out by those who believe in its literal interpretation in Revelation, fundamentally describes a version of the Christian God, including the “Lamb” (Jesus) overseeing the deliberate, purposeful burning alive of what will effectively be billions of non-christians who are supernaturally kept alive to endure this suffering for eternity. That is the actual outworking of this doctrine.

KellyJay, Sonship, SecondSon, or any other eternal suffering believer, if I am misrepresenting this doctrine or what you believe about it, please feel free to step in and correct my understanding.

@divegeester

Ok go on then...ask your crappy question. Let’s see how bamboozled you make me.

I do not care to "bamboozle" you until you "bamboozle" me with your relentless refusal to give an honest reply.

The lattest unanswered question was - How do you plan to stop God from carrying out sentencing men to eternal punishment (Rev. 20:15) if you turn out to be wrong?

@sonship said
@divegeester

Ok go on then...ask your crappy question. Let’s see how bamboozled you make me.

I do not care to "bamboozle" you until you "bamboozle" me with your relentless refusal to give an honest reply.

The lattest unanswered question was - How do you plan to stop God from carrying out sentencing men to eternal punishment (Rev. 20:15) if you turn out to be wrong?

Was I talking to you...?

@sonship said
@divegeester
How do you plan to stop God from carrying out sentencing men to eternal punishment (Rev. 20:15) if you turn out to be wrong?

I have no plans based on your scenario.

@divegeester

I contest that the doctrine of death, the doctrine of eternal suffering as laid out by those who believe in its literal interpretation in Revelation, fundamentally describes a version of the Christian God, including the “Lamb” (Jesus) overseeing the deliberate, purposeful burning alive of what will effectively be billions of non-christians who are supernaturally kept alive to endure this suffering for eternity. That is the actual outworking of this doctrine.

KellyJay, Sonship, SecondSon, or any other eternal suffering believer, if I am misrepresenting this doctrine or what you believe about it, please feel free to step in and correct my understanding.

I think you use some arguable phraseology like "non-christians".

The sheep in Matthew 25:31-46 are saved yet didn't know who the Lord Jesus was, that is until He tells them they are saved.

Were they "Christians" or "non-christians" [sic] ?

They didn't know WHO Christ was when they administered kindness to the least of His brothers.

"Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, Lord, when have we seen You hungry and have fed You, or thirsty and have given You a drink? And when have we seen You a stranger and have taken You in, or naked and have clothed You?" (Matt. 25:37,38)

@divegeester

I have no plans based on your scenario.

I think you just answered my question finally! Thanks!

@divegeester

I have no plans based on your scenario.

So you HOPE that "my scenario" is absolutely and utterly impossible ?

If I go with that then what prevents me from assuming that the Bible has LIED?

I think the burden should be borne by YOU to do some mighty reinterpreting rather then just complain what others see there.

Either that or just tell us that Scripture doesn't hold final authority for you.

You just examining problems with us who believe the words there is over. Go through some trouble and take some time to explain -

HERE is how we should understand these several verses.

@sonship said
@divegeester
I think you use some arguable phraseology like "non-christians".

Oh, wow, I guess that makes it alright then.