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The objective universal truth

The objective universal truth

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divegeester
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@divegeester said
So not a “universally objective truth” then?
KellyJay?

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@fmf said
No, KellyJay. Blimey. Have you not read or understood anything I have said to you over the last ten years?

The "rules", as you put it, are the same for BOTH you and me.

I too can only speculate about supernatural matters. I too can only offer subjective perspectives. Same as you.

Gosh. Have you really not comprehended the meaning of what I've been saying all this time?
Yes, your rules applied to everyone; it is just your opinion, only your opinion.

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@kellyjay said
Yes, your rules applied to everyone; it is just your opinion, only your opinion.
It's my subjective analysis of your subjective opinions.

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@fmf said
It's my subjective analysis of your subjective opinions.
You are, in essence, saying, as far as my opinion is concerned, that your opinion
and everyone else's in your eyes is of no consequence since all opinions can be
taken or rejected; they are, after all, just an opinion. So who cares! If only opinions
can be given, it doesn't matter the merit, since all opinions are just that only
opinions, we can go by personalities, or methodologies, it isn't really important,
they are, after all, just opinions; at the end of the day, my subjective analysis of
your subjective analysis of my subjective opinions on objective truths.

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@kellyjay said
You are, in essence, saying, as far as my opinion is concerned, that your opinion
and everyone else's in your eyes is of no consequence since all opinions can be
taken or rejected; they are, after all, just an opinion. So who cares! If only opinions
can be given, it doesn't matter the merit, since all opinions are just that only
opinions, we can go by personalities, or m ...[text shortened]... , my subjective analysis of
your subjective analysis of my subjective opinions on objective truths.
You are using the word "objective" incorrectly. We can but speculate about supernatural things.

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@kellyjay said
So who cares! If only opinions
can be given, it doesn't matter the merit, since all opinions are just that only
opinions
who cares! If the merit doesn't matter

I care. To me, the merit of my perspectives matters to me.

Their merit compared to what, I hear you ask.

Well, their merit compared to your perspectives, for example.

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@fmf said
who cares! If the merit doesn't matter

I care. To me, the merit of my perspectives matters to me.

Their merit compared to what, I hear you ask.

Well, their merit compared to your perspectives, for example.
That’s just your opinion!

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@kellyjay said
That’s just your opinion!
Of course. All you are doing is sharing your opinion too.

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@fmf said
Of course. All you are doing is sharing your opinion too.
The topic of conversation is more than just our opinions, if you view it all as nothing
but opinion there is nothing substantive there, nothing definitive there, only an
endless speculating, ever learning, and never coming to the truth.

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@divegeester said
KellyJay?
@divegeester?

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@kellyjay said
The topic of conversation is more than just our opinions, if you view it all as nothing
but opinion there is nothing substantive there, nothing definitive there, only an
endless speculating, ever learning, and never coming to the truth.
If you are saying there is "nothing substantive" and "nothing definitive" about the opinions you express here, so be it.

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@kellyjay said
We look through a glass darkly
Does us all looking through a glass darkly make the universal truth less objective, or more objective?

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@divegeester said
If it is universally objective to all observers, and you think you have it, then why doesn’t everyone in world agree with you?
You've heard of free will, yeah?

Same reason why not everyone follows Jesus.

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@divegeester said
We think, therefore we exist.

This is an existential universal objective truth about persons, not stones.
"To exist" is not the same as "to be".

"To be" encompasses so much more than mere existence.

A stone doesn't think, yet it exists. But it can never state "I am ".

This concept is made clear when God said to Moses, "Tell them I AM sent you."

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