Spirituality
23 Jul 22
@KellyJay
So you ponder, its all you have, and all you will have in this life, by your own choice!
If you feel your post-pondering faith in Jesus and your certainty about your own immortality gives you more in your life than I have, then I don't see how this personal opinion about this affects anything.
If neither of us knows any objective truths about supernatural causality, what is the problem with pondering it?
31 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidYou express a lot of personal opinions about a supposed "meta-narrative". I get it.
As you speak to others, when anything is said, the retort is 'opinion,' an opinion
is limited to the speaker, while a meta-narrative encompasses all Truth, Truth if it
is limited to only the speaker and is nothing but an opinion; Truth doesn't require
someone to know about it, it simply is, and we can look at the world around
looking for what is and is not true; we can p ...[text shortened]... , we can
color what we see as anything we like, and then it turns into something else,
an opinion.
You think it "encompasses all Truth", so be it.
You say "Truth doesn't require someone to know about it, it simply is", OK.
Based on the things you say, I have no reason to think that you "know" what "the truth" is, your strong faith notwithstanding.
You seem to think that you have "accurately perceive it correctly" and that this somehow makes it "objective".
But I find a lot of your ideas unimpressive and rather farfetched and, more to the point, morally incoherent.
Now, there you go.
31 Jul 22
@fmf saidJesus is the Word of God made flesh and has come so we can know Him; you deny
@KellyJay
So you ponder, its all you have, and all you will have in this life, by your own choice!
If you feel your post-pondering faith in Jesus and your certainty about your own immortality gives you more in your life than I have, then I don't see how this personal opinion about this affects anything.
If neither of us knows any objective truths about supernatural causality, what is the problem with pondering it?
that, which is why you are an Anti-Christ in this life. You claim in YOUR beliefs that
we cannot know supernatural causality as if you know the truth about it, which, as
I pointed out to you a contradiction! Your very declaration of the truth about it,
you claim we cannot know anything, yet you say you know enough to make that
statement! You are very self-contradictory, claiming knowledge you say no one
can have.
We cannot make God come down, or pull Him up, but He can enter into us due to
His grace; you are on the outside looking in, never knowing, always speculating,
missing the Way, Truth, and Life.
31 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidThank you for laying out your personal opinions about this matter.
Jesus is the Word of God made flesh and has come so we can know Him; you deny
that, which is why you are an Anti-Christ in this life. You claim in YOUR beliefs that
we cannot know supernatural causality as if you know the truth about it, which, as
I pointed out to you a contradiction! Your very declaration of the truth about it,
you claim we cannot know anything, yet you ...[text shortened]... are on the outside looking in, never knowing, always speculating,
missing the Way, Truth, and Life.
31 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidWith this, you are effectively conceding that you do not have any evidence aside from the strength of your own beliefs about "the Way, Truth, and Life" which are simply some words in an ancient book.
We cannot make God come down, or pull Him up, but He can enter into us due to
His grace; you are on the outside looking in, never knowing, always speculating,
missing the Way, Truth, and Life.
@divegeester saidKellyJay?
You said the same thing as this two pages ago in an effort to dodge it.
If you have replied to this particular post of mine, then state the page number and post number??
Could you kindly state the page and post please?
31 Jul 22
@divegeester saidIf you didn’t recognize them the first time pointing them out to you again will not help.
KellyJay?
Could you kindly state the page and post please?
31 Jul 22
@fmf saidWe both shared, the fact that happened isn’t the point, but what is true! God who created wants us and has made a way to Him in Christ alone, this is denied by you. So you deny Him, you deny that God enters into humanity, your anti-Christ stance is clearly understood, it just shows your disconnected to your maker. When the time comes, “I never knew you,” will be what you hear, if you remain where you are.
Thank you for laying out your personal opinions about this matter.
31 Jul 22
@divegeester saidI don’t have any interest in saying the same things to you in countless ways in hopes that you understand, while you repeat the same questions over and over.
This constant pretence at having replied isn’t making you look very honest.
@kellyjay saidThanks once again for laying out your personal opinions about these supernatural beings and about what you imagine are the implications for me of not being a member of your religion. So, what about some objective facts?
We both shared, the fact that happened isn’t the point, but what is true! God who created wants us and has made a way to Him in Christ alone, this is denied by you. So you deny Him, you deny that God enters into humanity, your anti-Christ stance is clearly understood, it just shows your disconnected to your maker. When the time comes, “I never knew you,” will be what you hear, if you remain where you are.
31 Jul 22
@fmf saidIf you think facts are only facts due to the membership of some group, you don't
Thanks once again for laying out your personal opinions about these supernatural beings and about what you imagine are the implications for me of not being a member of your religion. So, what about some objective facts?
grasp the meaning of facts.
31 Jul 22
@divegeester saidIf you ever really got it, you'd only ask a question once. You seem to understand
You just dodge awkward questions; I get it.
more when no one talks to you, how sad.