Christ's words about the religious power structures in Matthew 23 did they indicate the organized Judaism was more under God's control or more under God's enemy's control?
WHICH ?
ANSWER.
He won't answer I fear folks. That's because he's good at accusation but dodges himself mightily.
This would require him to read the Bible, which he probably HATES to do.
Who is more likely in Christ's eyes to be calling the shots in that day's Judaism - the Spirit of God or the evil Spirit seeking to execute the Son of God?
The latter is the answer to anyone who has the courage to read through Matthew 23.
And thus the ground for Witness Lee to say something about it in harmony with what Christ said.
Lee also expounded Romans 9 - 11 which promises that all Israel will be saved.
Of course the bigots hunting for negative criticism of Witness Lee won't go out of their way to admit that.
@sonship saidAll three of my dimensions are fine and survived the shift to no-longer-being-religious without ill effect.
You're a three dimensional creation. Yet one third of you is deadened, comatose and you insist that you are only of two dimensions.
There's the tragedy.
@sonship saidThere is no "Matthew 23" in Judaism.
@FMF
When I speak to something in this thread of 800 some posts, you don't read it or don't like it, I don't regard refusals to RE-argue the points as dodges.
They may be dodges of repetition which is wasted on someone. That's all.
I think I wrote of Matthew 23 extensively in another thread. The way you follow me you probably read those comments.
Chri ...[text shortened]... ed Judaism was more under God's control or more under God's enemy's control?
WHICH ?
ANSWER.
Nor is there "Catholicism" or "Protestantism" or "Witness Lee" in "Matthew 23".
That question of mine about Exodus and Ghost of a Duke is still there waiting for you.
@FMF
NO longer being religious has nothing to do with it.
And above not all who criticized Witness Lee would I call bigots.
I call you one because of your myopic lopsided bias to criticize his words selectively without out honest regard for the full picture.
But not at all who are critics of Witness Lee or of me for that matter - are bigots. Some are just ... critics. No problem.
There is no "Matthew 23" in Judaism.
Nor is there "Catholicism" or "Protestantism" or "Witness Lee" in "Matthew 23".
That question of mine about Exodus and Ghost of a Duke is still there waiting for you.
You may say there is no Protestantism or Catholicism in Matthew 23.
There is Judaism.
And there are negative principles of any theistic organized apostate religious systems which hold over to other systems.
@sonship saidIf all the Witness Lee stuff gives you a sense of purpose in life and helps you come to terms with the inevitability of death ~ and keeps you as morally sound as possible ~ then I say good. Go for it. I don't see how this makes me a "bigot".
And above not all who criticized Witness Lee would I call bigots.
I call you one because of your myopic lopsided bias to criticize his words selectively without out honest regard for the full picture.
But not at all who are are critics of Witness Lee or me for that matter - are bigots. Some are just ... critics. No problem.
@sonship saidWell "being religious" seems to be the only aspect of spirituality that you are able to conceive. You talked about my "dead spirit" which you are doing because I am not a member of your religion. So, in terms of your interpersonal and intellectual problems with processing dissent, it would seem, with me, for you "no longer being religious has [everything] to do with it".
@FMF
NO longer being religious has nothing to do with it.
@sonship saidI just asked you about the Exodus thing as it pertains to Ghost of a Duke, that's all. OK, so your Christian cult is taught that almost all other Christians in the world are members of "organizations of Satan". Good for you. What does Exodus have to do with it though?
And above not all who criticized Witness Lee would I call bigots.
I call you one because of your myopic lopsided bias to criticize his words selectively without out honest regard for the full picture.
If all the Witness Lee stuff gives you a sense of purpose in life and helps you come to terms with the inevitability of death ~ and keeps you as morally sound as possible ~ then I say good. Go for it. I don't see how this makes me a "bigot".
Thanks dad,
I already know I am fortunate to have come across the wisdom of the ministry of Witness Lee. Not awaiting your nod of approval of its goodness effect.
The more you EVADE the question I ask you the MORE you appear as a bigot, wanting to justify his bias.
Judaism IS indicated in Matthew 23. Christ's scolding of the leaders there, was it more indicative of God controlling the system or of God enemy the Devil controlling it?
If you were honest you'd admit that Christ's rebuke is more indicative of Satan having gained to much influence over the majority of its ruling leaders.
Then you have to admit that Witness Lee was just (at least in that portion of his ministry) harmonizing with what Christ taught.
And you're not going to do that because you are a bigot against him and his so-called "cult".
Show us again how to evade the question like a pro.
@sonship saidThe Christians broke away from Judaism. Matthew 23 is for Christians. Jesus was a fake and an imposter to the Jews. Matthew 23 is meaningless to them. But what does this have to do with my question about Exodus and Ghost of a Duke?
You may say there is no Protestantism or Catholicism in Matthew 23.
There is Judaism.
@sonship saidI can hardly be rightfully called a "bigot" by you if you acknowledge that I am acknowledging the "goodness effect" for you.
Thanks dad,
I already know I am fortunate to have come across the wisdom of the ministry of Witness Lee. Not awaiting your nod of approval of its goodness effect.
@sonship saidThe Jehovah's Witnesses are a Christian cult as well. They also believe that almost all the Christians in the world - the billions of Catholics and Protestants - are mixed up with the work of "Satan".
And you're not going to do that because you are a bigot against him and his so-called "cult".