@sonship saidDoesn't this apply to followers of Witness Lee too? Don't they "often set their minds not on the things of God but the things of men" as well?
Given Catholicism and Protestantism and other disciples have often set their minds not on the things of God but t he things of men, would they not merit some rebuke from a faithful servant of God?
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Peter. Catholics. Protestants. Is Witness Lee "Satan" too? Are Ghost of a Duke and I here, chatting to you on this message board, under the influence of "Satan"? Are you under the influence of "Satan"?
At some point every human being born in the world on this side of Adam's fall has fallen under the influence of God's enemy.
Once again the NT says that "the whole world lies in the evil one."
But since you don't care for what the NT says, being so blind and getting MORE blind as the years go by, this means nothing to you.
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Second question for anyone:
As a theist, which should be more concerned to avoid ?
1.) A scolding that something originating from God (Judaism) has become deformed and corrupted and has lost touch with its historical basis.
2.) A proclamation that there is no God PERIOD, to originate anything and the historical basis of a Judaism is entirely fictional non-history.
@sonship saidThe fact that I am no longer a Christian is not relevant to the fact that you think all Catholics and Protestants in the world are followers or members of "organizations of Satan".
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Peter. Catholics. Protestants. Is Witness Lee "Satan" too? Are Ghost of a Duke and I here, chatting to you on this message board, under the influence of "Satan"? Are you under the influence of "Satan"?
At some point every human being born in the world on this side of Adam's fall has fallen under the influence of God's enemy.
Once again the NT sa ...[text shortened]... says, being so blind and getting MORE blind as the years go by, this means nothing to you.
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The fact that I am no longer a Christian is not relevant to the fact that you think all Catholics and Protestants in the world are followers or members of "organizations of Satan".
You were once a Christian? I don't know that.
And my Christian brothers and sisters in systems which have gone apostate are closer to me then your supposed renouncing the brotherhood of faith altogether.
I still have hope for them.
You're the one who has discarded all spiritual brothers and sisters saying "No longer a Christian here!"
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Which is worst folks?
God in Revelation calls for His people to come out of the great religious apostasy - "Come out of her MY PEOPLE" (Rev. 18:4)
Or
This ATHEIST FMF announcing that there is no God at all nor church of God to build up ?
I say God's exhortation out of love and discipline and frankness for salvation is preferred to the Judas Iscariot like denial of God and Christ's deity completely. The latter proclamation is that there is no God and no people of God.
@sonship saidI haven't "discarded" any of the Christians I live my life among.
You're the one who has discarded all spiritual brothers and sisters saying "No longer a Christian here!"
Your religion makes you declare you would want to die rather than have my mind. None of the other Christians I have ever known in my life have ever said anything like that or behaved as if they thought it. Only you.
To me, there's something tragic about believing a spiritual connection between people can only be defined in terms of very specific mythology and religious doctrine.
It's your fellow humans seen through a peephole.
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Concerning his treatment of the 2nd and 3rd chapters of Revelation:
I asked you what Witness Lee said the church in Thyatira prophetically symbolized.
You said nothing.
I asked you what Witness Lee said the church is Sardis prophetically symbolized.
You said nothing.
Now you'll also say nothing when I ask you how Lee treated the symbolisim of the church in Laodicea.
There was anough warning to go around to ALL believers.
The Catholic apostasy, the Protestant incompleteness, and the fallen recovered church.
With Witness Lee, there was enough warning to go around to exhort ALL Christians - INCLUDING those who followed his ministry.
His warning touched ALL believers and did not EXEMPT those in churches under his ministry.
@sonship saidYou are dodging my question about what Exodus has to do with Ghost of a Duke's quoting Lee on "Satan" and Catholicism and "Satan" and Protestantism.
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Concerning his treatment of the 2nd and 3rd chapters of Revelation:
I asked you what Witness Lee said the church in Thyatira prophetically symbolized.
You said nothing.
I asked you what Witness Lee said the church is Sardis prophetically symbolized.
You said nothing.
Now you'll also say nothing when I ask you how Lee treated the symbolisim of the church in ...[text shortened]... stry.
His warning touched ALL believers and did not EXEMPT those in churches under his ministry.
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To me, there's something tragic about believing a spiritual connection between people can only be defined in terms of very specific mythology and religious doctrine.
That's your dead spirit's assumption. That is the blind man arguing that he cannot see anything but tragedy in those who claim the color BLUE really exists.
You're a three dimensional creation. Yet one third of you is deadened, comatose and you insist that you are only of two dimensions.
There's the tragedy.
@sonship said"There is no God"? I think you are getting me mixed up with Ghost of a Duke
I say God's exhortation out of love and discipline and frankness for salvation is preferred to the Judas Iscariot like denial of God and Christ's deity completely. The latter proclamation is that there is no God and no people of God.
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When I speak to something in this thread of 800 some posts, you don't read it or don't like it, I don't regard refusals to RE-argue the points as dodges.
They may be dodges of repetition which is wasted on someone. That's all.
I think I wrote of Matthew 23 extensively in another thread. The way you follow me you probably read those comments.
Christ's words about the religious power structures in Matthew 23 did they indicate the organized Judaism was more under God's control or more under God's enemy's control?
WHICH ?
ANSWER.