30 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieQuite a pattern you are displaying here.
you continue to use derogatory and spiteful remarks, therefore i refuse to read further. Were those remarks necessary to your argument, no? then why did you put them in? spammer! secondly, it is our religious belief, i need not substantiate it to you nor anyone else, although i did provide extensive reasons as to why we believe as we do, both medical ...[text shortened]...
I dare say that transfusion has killed more persons than Mengeles could hoped to have achieved.
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30 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieyou continue to use derogatory and spiteful remarks, therefore i refuse to read further.
you continue to use derogatory and spiteful remarks, therefore i refuse to read further. Were those remarks necessary to your argument, no? then why did you put them in? spammer! secondly, it is our religious belief, i need not substantiate it to you nor anyone else, although i did provide extensive reasons as to why we believe as we do, both medical ...[text shortened]...
I dare say that transfusion has killed more persons than Mengeles could hoped to have achieved.
Well, this is just childish. You have done substantially worse. At one point you even suggested that I was blase about child abuse.
secondly, it is our religious belief, i need not substantiate it to you nor anyone else
If you wish to keep your reasons for your religious reasons private, I suggest you leave the forum. This is a space for a frank exchange of religious views and if you feel that the demand to present arguments is too much, then go.
you are under no duress to agree with nor accept those reasons.
I am quite aware of this. Nor is anyone else seeking to impose duress on you. Why should you construe religious dialogue like this as some kind of oppressive infringement on your religious freedom?
I dare say that transfusion has killed more persons than Mengeles could hoped to have achieved.
Again, please review what I wrote above. Since blood transfusions save far more lives than kill, your argument is clearly invalid. And since you support blood fractions, despite the same risks, you are a hypocrite.
30 Sep 10
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Originally posted by Conrau Kas i stated, i have better things to do with my time, the reasons for my beliefs were given, i need not do so again, and again and again, secondly whether i wish to express my conscience or not is none of your business, you have no right and no basis telling anyone what they may do or say, nor whether they are at liberty to leave the forum or stay, its not your forum, get over it, lastly i myself only accept recombinant fractions, that is fractions that are synthetically produced, but you never knew that, nor thought about it because you don't realise that its a conscious based decision, what a witness shall accept in this regard or not , did you, noooooo, you just open your big mouth and blurt out like the hollow and empty man that you are, oh you must be a hypocrite, well i got news for you spanky, you don't know anything about this matter, so until you know what you are talking about i suggest once again that you get out your knitting needles out and knit a pointy hat for yourself, for God knows you need something to identify with. Don't waste my time on the matter any more, your comments shall be ignored if you do.
[b]you continue to use derogatory and spiteful remarks, therefore i refuse to read further.
Well, this is just childish. You have done substantially worse. At one point you even suggested that I was blase about child abuse.
secondly, it is our religious belief, i need not substantiate it to you nor anyone else
If you wish to keep your r ...[text shortened]... rly invalid. And since you support blood fractions, despite the same risks, you are a hypocrite.[/b]
30 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo me a favor, put me on your ignore list too.
as i stated, i have better things to do with my time, the reasons for my believe were given, i need not do so again, and again and again, secondly whether i wish to express my conscience or not is none of your business, you have no right and no basis telling anyone what they may do or say, nor whether they are at liberty to leave the forum or stay, i ...[text shortened]... with. Don't waste my time on the matter any more, your comments shall be ignored if you do.
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30 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe arguments are there. When you mature, one day you may be able to engage in a civilised debate, properly responding to counterarguments rather than dismissing any critic in this sarcastic manner.
as i stated, i have better things to do with my time, the reasons for my beliefs were given, i need not do so again, and again and again, secondly whether i wish to express my conscience or not is none of your business, you have no right and no basis telling anyone what they may do or say, nor whether they are at liberty to leave the forum or stay, i ...[text shortened]... with. Don't waste my time on the matter any more, your comments shall be ignored if you do.
lastly i myself only accept recombinant fractions, that is fractions that are synthetically produced, but you never knew that, nor thought about it because you don't realise that its a conscious based decision, what a witness shall accept in this regard or not
I'm not really interested in your medical history nor your conscience. My point is that fractions also carry risks and have resulted in death. Your conscience call but you are guilty of hypocrisy when you condemn blood transfusions as lethal yet uphold blood fractions as morally superior despite identical risks.
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lastly i myself only accept recombinant fractions, that is fractions that are synthetically produced, but you never knew that, nor thought about it becau transfusions as lethal yet uphold blood fractions as morally superior despite identical risks.how can recombinant fractions which are produced entirely synthetically contain the same risk as whole blood or even one of its four constituent parts?? go away and learn something, for goodness sake! and stop whinging cause i dont want to argue with you anymore.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieInteresting how you are suddenly braced for more discussion shortly after solemnly declaring that you will ignore all of my posts. I suspect you are just a sulk who throws a tantrum when his argument proves untenable. Despite all your protestations, you won't retreat.
how can recombinant fractions which are produced entirely synthetically contain the same risk as whole blood or even one of its four constituent parts?? go away and learn something, for goodness sake! and stop whinging cause i dont want to argue with you anymore.
I don't think you quite understand anyway how drugs are made using recombinant technology. This is really very funny.
30 Sep 10
Originally posted by Conrau KConrau I really don't think you are a bad person or anything like that despite the personal remarks, indeed i have grown to respect you, but i tell you truly, i tire of the debate, it is wearisome to me, 600 + posts of the same thing again and again, for what purpose? i could argue these points, but the time energy and effort is too much, already its 3:48 am, i have a family to look after, a mortgage to pay, a business to run, please don't feel bad nor assign to me ulterior motives, have i not bravely tried to answer your points until now? Well then it is enough.
Interesting how you are suddenly braced for more discussion shortly after solemnly declaring that you will ignore all of my posts. I suspect you are just a sulk who throws a tantrum when his argument proves untenable. Despite all your protestations, you won't retreat.
30 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes indeed I'm saying just that. Maybe alluring but bad toxic poison for the spiritually gullible. The devil comes as an angel of light appearing as truth.
yes the Bible still out sells anything in the known history of mankind, THE most widely available and translated book in the universe. Are you saying that the W/T and Awake is not manna ?
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30 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYour assuming this is all Christians and all churches. This is your one big mistake when trying to lump Christians all in to the same mold. This may happen as you say but this is not all of Christendom.
not only is it mathematically probable, we claim it, you noobs must scrimp and scrape around soup kitchens, bribing people in to the church with hot meals and dreams of warm blankets! or open super churches, win a playstation 3, Jesus loves you! ask Deucer, his church plays bingo on Monday, darts lessons on Tuesday, has a jumble sale on Wednesday, h ...[text shortened]... these things in to practice for half an hour then its off to crusty burgers for wings and coke!
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